A Quarterback isn't going to fix this

medaille wrote:

This is pretty close to my take on the situation, but I think Cousins could come in and be good enough to pair with the defense to be SB caliber.  I think Mullens would be my backup option.  He looked good for a bit, but with TOs. I don't think other QBs would work. KOC's system is just too complex to learn midseason.
I think the big difference has been Udinski leaving.  I think he was a high quality coach who got the whole QB room prepared.  I think none of KOC/Phillips/McCown are really good at preparing a QB for the upcoming week.
One essential thing I think we need to do is bring in a consultant or offensive advisor to the coaching staff to just work through or processes and see if there’s some way to simplify things and focus on the right things.  Is Bruce Arians too old to bring in for a couple months?

I would agree. Udinski leaving does seem to be significant. Considering what he has done with Temu Fabio over in Jacksonville. Maybe he is ready to be a head coach next year?

A competant QB will have an absolute ripple effect on this team. With a QB this team should be able to sustain drives more frequently resulting in less 3 and outs. That should keep the defense fresh much longer into the game. Defenses now have no respect for our QB and therefore can full on impose their will on our offense. With a functional QB, that can utilize the multitude of weapons we have, we get that power back.

Now you can argue as to who we can acquire that will be functional in this offense. IMO, there are only two that could "hit the ground running" and effectively jump start the offense...that's Kirk and Daniel Jones who have familiarity with the offense. Anyone else would be a dart throw or a pipe dream (Herbert or Stafford).

Yes....we are....😡

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Vikesrock wrote:

I wrote a small dissertation of how KOC should be on the hot seat just before the season had started. I lined out a few things as to what KOC would need to do to be the 2027 Vikings head coach. The only checkbox I can recall that hasn't been reached is failure to win a playoff game. As of right now, this is not a playoff team. But lets take a deeper dive in to why a QB won't fix this. Lets go all the way back to week 8 of 2023 when Kirk Cousins tore his achilleas. Since that time, the plethora of QB's coming through the turnstile has been many. This offense has failed on many levels since then, including the 2024 Darnold season. Darnold looked serviceable to great until it really mattered. He then melted down. The blame was on everything except where it should of been. The OL was bad, we have no running game, the defense didn't make a stop...blah blah blah. Welp 2025 comes along and it's JJ's team. Except he fails. Sure he gets injured, but he looks unprepared, he looks lost many times. He is wildly inaccurate (Sounding familiar), slow to read, and then injured. Then it's Wince, Brosmer and a missed playoff team, BUT some hope as the Vikings win the last 5. Here comes 2026. JJM is no longer the KOC darling, now he has a new super QB. Mighty Mouse is here to save the day!! Failed again. Well lets run Wince's ass out there to save some semblance of offense, and it is somehow...WORSE!! What in the hell is going on?Listen we can preach about the 5th rounder for JJM, or many other moves, but the one constant remains. This offense fails because it is ill-prepared from the QB out. I am no fan of KM, Wince, or even McCarthy, but the evidence is there that failure on offense is well...consistent. KOC and his staff of goobers are exactly who is tasked to make the engine run. You have some of the best WR's in the world out there, Hockenson is no slouch, and like it or not, but the OL doesn't look terrible, even with the statue and Mighty Mouse back there.Even IF the Vikings were to get Cousins in here, it isn't going to be enough. There are fundamental issues within the offense, and it has very little to do with play calling and schemes and more to do with coaching and preparedness. As long as KOC is standing on the sidelines, this variation will be the results. It has now played out for just over 3 seasons. They aren't going to fire him, but unless he brings in a professional offensive staff, the Vikings will continue to fail, be prepared to see Justin Jefferson, WR1 Kansas City Chiefs.

I think you're on the right track. I just posted something similar in the trade thread. Your typical Joe Six-Pack is always going to blame the QB because that's all he sees. But there's a LOT more going on here. And I think you're right to point the finger at preparation.

One comment to add, I know lots like to point to WR's running wide open on the all 22. Couple of things that need to line up for the QB to throw the ball. 1st he has to be looking at them. He also has to see where the defense is as in where the throw will end up as opposed to where everything is now in relation to the overall play. Some seem obvious, but if the QB is on read 1 and read 3 comes wide open, in pure progression, the QB isn't there yet. To me that points back to..preparation for reading different defensive looks. If you see a single high, this is progression #1, but if you have quarters, or man 2 man, this is progression #1. I see a locked in QB looking down a receiver or 2 and patting the ball. This screams prep, but maybe the QB's are too thick to change reads. If that's the case...who the heck is picking them?

Course it doesn't help that when Wentz or KM does see an open receiver, they can't hit the broadside of a barn with a beachball, but that is another discussion all together.

Here's a little QB101 from AI on how preparation impacts accuracy.

• Quarterback accuracy is often evaluated as a physical trait—arm talent, touch, and mechanics—but mental preparation and game planning directly control how consistently a QB can execute accurate throws.

• When a QB knows where the ball needs to go based on the pre-snap look, they throw on rhythm. Hesitation—even by a fraction of a second—causes receivers to drift out of window zones, forcing the QB to throw late and leading to underthrown or off-target passes.

• A game plan ties specific dropback depths (3-step, 5-step, or 7-step) to the route tree. When preparation is solid, the QB's back foot hits the ground exact to the millisecond the receiver enters their break.

• High-level accuracy requires throwing the ball before the receiver actually makes their break. Game planning details how specific coverage defenders react to specific route combinations (e.g., pulling a flat defender down with a swing route to open a window behind them).

• Thorough preparation teaches the QB which shoulder or hip of the receiver to target based on defender leverage (e.g., placing the ball on the outside shoulder against inside-shade coverage).

• A well-crafted game plan gives the QB clear "hot" reads and sight-adjustments against unblocked pressure.

• If a QB is surprised by a blitz, their body naturally reacts by speeding up throwing mechanics recklessly, resetting their feet improperly, or throwing off-balance. Knowing where the pressure is coming from allows them to slide their protection or quickly dump the ball without sacrificing mechanics.

Wentz being inaccurate.

MaroonBells wrote:

Wentz being inaccurate.
https://twitter.com/StateofSkol10k/status/2120224923192889755

So F'ing sad...

MaroonBells wrote:

Wentz being inaccurate.
https://twitter.com/StateofSkol10k/status/2120224923192889755

That one had me livid until I saw that he got stepped on. Then it just turned into another play where the QB failed to pull the trigger.

MaroonBells wrote:

Wentz being inaccurate.
https://twitter.com/StateofSkol10k/status/2120224923192889755

He passed up 3 wide open options to wait to throw to Jefferson who was not open. I don't know what these guys are being coached to do, but Jefferson's route seems like it should be one of the last progressions so why are we passing up a TD (Addison), big gain (Price), and an easy completion (Hockenson)?

MaroonBells wrote:

Wentz being inaccurate.
https://twitter.com/StateofSkol10k/status/2120224923192889755

It's not his fault that ball wasn't caught. Hit the receiver right in the hands. That was plenty accurate.