That'a boy....

greediron wrote:

I liked Zimmer and he was a good coach until he wasn't. Amazing defenses, but his approach wore thin with the players. As a HC, I think he is no where near as good as KOC.

^ Sums it up. 👍

StickierBuns wrote:

"NFL head coaches who started their playoff careers with an 0-2 record include notable names like Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Bill Belichick...."
Its just a goofy thing to keep bringing up, like somehow this is who he'll always be. Anytime anyone brings up something positive about KOC, which there are several, you drop this tired ass gem of yours. Its a stat until it isn't. He's 43-25 in the regular season. He's coached 4 years in the NFL, 3 seasons of winning records outside the injury apocalypse of 2023. 2 seasons of 13+ wins. How did you not work in a jab at the Wilfs in there? Slipping, man....

Not sure why you even bother. You eventually notice this is more about the hater than the hated. You remove one target, it doesn't go away, it just shifts to the next.

MaroonBells wrote:

Not sure why you even bother. You eventually notice this is more about the hater than the hated. You remove one target, it doesn't go away, it just shifts to the next.

Agreed. My bad.

greediron wrote:

As a HC, I think he is no where near as good as KOC.

Ok, but the results thusfar don't support that. That's all I'm saying.

MaroonBells wrote:

Not sure why you even bother. You eventually notice this is more about the hater than the hated. You remove one target, it doesn't go away, it just shifts to the next.

In search of the next reason to be miserable

MaroonBells wrote:

Not sure why you even bother. You eventually notice this is more about the hater than the hated. You remove one target, it doesn't go away, it just shifts to the next.

Again, just think it's funny we are over here fist bumping and arm pumping over OConnell having a winning record against Green Bay when are heading into year 5 under him and have done nothing in the playoffs. If regular season success and brownie points are your thing, more power to you, Sticky, and the rest.

If you look harder enough, you can find faults for about everyone...Sorry for just being human.

JustInTime wrote:

https://twitter.com/sleepervikings/status/2055639020231655473

He sucks.

Since being named the Vikings Head Coach in 2022, Kevin O’Connell has a 4-4 record against the Lions with a -3 total point differential in their matchups

Bud Grant famously said "A good coach needs a patient wife, a loyal dog, and a great quarterback, but not necessarily in that order." The entire history of the Vikings shows that it's all about the quarterback.

supafreak84 wrote:

Since being named the Vikings Head Coach in 2022, Kevin O’Connell has a 4-4 record against the Lions with a -3 total point differential in their matchups

This is what I found vs Lions since 2022:

Vikings 3-6 (33%)

GB 3-6 (33%)

CHI 1-7 (12.5%)

In 2025 vs Lions:

Vikings 1-1

GB 2-0

Chi 0-2

Lions have had a great stretch since drafting well and the rare trade at QB that worked out well for both teams. That said, I'm not sure if their best football is still ahead of them or not?

If we get the QB right and the D doesnt take too much of a step back? I think we improve on those 9 wins from 25.

purplefaithful wrote:
In 2025 vs Lions:
Vikings 1-1
GB 2-0
Chi 0-2

We were 2-0 vs. the Lions last year.

comet52 wrote:

We were 2-0 vs. the Lions last year.

That was other divisional teams against the Lions. Took me a minute to understand it as well.

KO has done a great job IMO. If there was one issue I had, it was that he took too long to adjust his scheme around the QB. Too many times I felt he was trying to force the system to the QB. Once he adjusted that, things seemed to work pretty well. Other than that, he’s a very good head coach.

Canthony wrote:

KO has done a great job IMO. If there was one issue I had, it was that he took too long to adjust his scheme around the QB. Too many times I felt he was trying to force the system to the QB. Once he adjusted that, things seemed to work pretty well. Other than that, he’s a very good head coach.

I agree...He's a bright guy and can chalk-board up some of the nicest pass plays a fan can watch unfold.

Yah, he took too long to adjust the O for JJM and he hasn't found his sweet spot for balancing running/passing consistently.

But at least he did finally adjust the O and this season brought in Frank Smith to help blend in that running game more seamlessly.

Time will tell on all of this - now job #1 is to execute that QB competition and adjust the offense accordingly if K1 is the ultimate starter.

The whole "KOC is on the hotseat this year" conversation is just silly. He has the highest winning percentage of any Vikings coach EVER...and that includes Bud Grant who had a lot of Hall of Famers including at QB.

KOC won Coach of the year the year before last. He consistently ranks among the best in surveys with the NFLPA and the Teams votes on coaches. You ever watch the Wilfs when KOC is giving one of his victory speeches...they are positively giddy. The piss poor drafting and lack of a QB has killed the team during KOC's tenure with the team. We've had to fill way too many holes with expensive vets and had to let players go to get under the cap. We've had 7 different starting QBs under KOC's term...Cousins, Mannion, Dobbs, Mullens, Hall, Darnold and McCarthy. The only 3 of that group worth discussing are Cousins, Darnold and McCarthy. Cousins came to the Vikings with a reputation of fading under the bright lights.. He did a little better with the Vikings but he was always going to be known as a guy that puts up numbers but can't win the big games. We picked Darnold up off the "I see ghosts" scrap pile and turned his fortunes around. Wish we could have kept him but again...couldn't do it with the aging and expensive surround..it wasn't in the cards. Even if we kept him...I'm not sure they wouldn't have taken a QB last year similar to the Cousins / Penix situation to hedge their bets. McCarthy's injuries certainly haven't helped the team find out if they have a QB yet. That leaves us with the Oompa Loompa this year. If he tears it up, and we draft well so that we can afford him...than it's worth discussing

As a long time Viking fan, I share the frustration of the fan base. But KOC isn't on the hotseat. You'll know he is in trouble when he has to fire Phillips/McCown to save himself and hire a stronger voice on the offense. No doubt the Vikings have to get more balanced on offense. They certainly have got bigger along the line with Fries and Brandel to try to open up the running game. I'm still not sure they have the horses to pull that off but RB by committee will have to do this year.

badgervike wrote:

The whole "KOC is on the hotseat this year" conversation is just silly. He has the highest winning percentage of any Vikings coach EVER...and that includes Bud Grant who had a lot of Hall of Famers including at QB.
KOC won Coach of the year the year before last. He consistently ranks among the best in surveys with the NFLPA and the Teams votes on coaches. You ever watch the Wilfs when KOC is giving one of his victory speeches...they are positively giddy. The piss poor drafting and lack of a QB has killed the team during KOC's tenure with the team. We've had to fill way too many holes with expensive vets and had to let players go to get under the cap. We've had 7 different starting QBs under KOC's term...Cousins, Mannion, Dobbs, Mullens, Hall, Darnold and McCarthy. The only 3 of that group worth discussing are Cousins, Darnold and McCarthy. Cousins came to the Vikings with a reputation of fading under the bright lights.. He did a little better with the Vikings but he was always going to be known as a guy that puts up numbers but can't win the big games. We picked Darnold up off the "I see ghosts" scrap pile and turned his fortunes around. Wish we could have kept him but again...couldn't do it with the aging and expensive surround..it wasn't in the cards. Even if we kept him...I'm not sure they wouldn't have taken a QB last year similar to the Cousins / Penix situation to hedge their bets. McCarthy's injuries certainly haven't helped the team find out if they have a QB yet. That leaves us with the Oompa Loompa this year. If he tears it up, and we draft well so that we can afford him...than it's worth discussing
As a long time Viking fan, I share the frustration of the fan base. But KOC isn't on the hotseat. You'll know he is in trouble when he has to fire Phillips/McCown to save himself and hire a stronger voice on the offense. No doubt the Vikings have to get more balanced on offense. They certainly have got bigger along the line with Fries and Brandel to try to open up the running game. I'm still not sure they have the horses to pull that off but RB by committee will have to do this year.

Highest winning percentage of any Viking coach ever? That is a super cherry picked statistic. I just posted earlier in this thread that OConnell and Zimmer have virtually identical records through 4 years (except Zimmer already had a playoff win). I'll give it a couple more seasons before I annoint OConnell the second coming of Bill Walsh. Maybe a playoff win or two? OConnell was gift wrapped a playoff caliber roster from the outset which is rare for new head coaches. It was stocked with talent, the best receiver in football and an upper echelon veteran quarterback capable of running his complex system to success early on. Coach of the year awards don't mean much. We just watched a guy who's won that award twice in the last four years (Stefanski) get canned, and he actually had a playoff win under his belt. The Wilfs are weird, and they will can people whether they just gave them a contract extension or not. I think they are frustrated at the results or lack of success under the "competitive rebuild" plan, and just decided to turn everything over to OConnell in a "prove it" year. He won the power struggle with Kwesi, was given the reigns this offseason to run the free agency and the draft how he wanted with Brzez. If things don't go well this year...you think his job is safe? I don't, especially if the Wilfs decide to hire a GM that's not OConnell's golfing buddy and isn't tied to him moving forward.

StickierBuns wrote:

"NFL head coaches who started their playoff careers with an 0-2 record include notable names like Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Bill Belichick...."
It’sont worry just a goofy thing to keep bringing up, like somehow this is who he'll always be. Anytime anyone brings up something positive about KOC, which there are several, you drop this tired ass gem of yours. It’s a stat until it isn't. He's 43-25 in the regular season. He's coached 4 years in the NFL, 3 seasons of winning records outside the injury apocalypse of 2023. 2 seasons of 13+ wins. How did you not work in a jab at the Wilfs in there? Slipping, man....

Supas like shit on a pig. He once had a 98 page thread talking to himself about Covid. Or at least that what we all assumed? I guess since nobody read it, it could have been anything.

I wouldn’t expect him to ever change his opinion. Even after KOC is inducted into the HoF for winning us multiple SBs