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Awesome (long) breakdown of Bradbury vs. Clemson's DL
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Porn at 7:15. lmao!

Great recognition at 21:00 to a complex stunt you can see his eyes are really good.  

he will have some early issues in pass pro but hoping his tech improves quickly. meanwhile Kubes needs to scheme it up on boots etc
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Did you guys catch the part where they noted that Wilkins had his way with Jenkins from MSU, who could get drafted in the 2nd, but couldn't impose his will on Garrett at all?

So much impressive stuff and I'm only half way through. Also, NC States Guards suck. So does their LT.
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I've seen this a few times. It's part of the reason I was not overly concerned with Brad's strength issues. Lawrence and Wilkins are 1st round tackles and Bradbury handled them well. 
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The target of Bradbury clearly shows the O-line direction we are going.  Get athletic and smart inside.  If you can imagine going from Compton, Elf and Remmers to Elf (or a possible draft pick yet to come), Bradbury and Kline.  I actually really like Kline in an outside zone scheme which the Titans and Patriots ran when he was ascending as a player, Titans switched to a power scheme and he struggled.  

I'm not sure we go OL with this next pick at 50, but I think a guy like Connor McGovern would be a great pick up that groom as a potential 4 spot backup (RT, G and C) and eventual starter.  I also and very high on Pipkin's a little later than McGovern.

I still hate that we picked a center at 18 with plenty of interest to trade down.  Unless we have trade interest in Rudolph, Wayne or Griffen that we are willing to move on, the extra draft capital would beneficial to fill out this roster and especially the depth on the oline. 
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Quote: @Amazonviking said:
The target of Bradbury clearly shows the O-line direction we are going.  Get athletic and smart inside.  If you can imagine going from Compton, Elf and Remmers to Elf (or a possible draft pick yet to come), Bradbury and Kline.  I actually really like Kline in an outside zone scheme which the Titans and Patriots ran when he was ascending as a player, Titans switched to a power scheme and he struggled.  

I'm not sure we go OL with this next pick at 50, but I think a guy like Connor McGovern would be a great pick up that groom as a potential 4 spot backup (RT, G and C) and eventual starter.  I also and very high on Pipkin's a little later than McGovern.

I still hate that we picked a center at 18 with plenty of interest to trade down.  Unless we have trade interest in Rudolph, Wayne or Griffen that we are willing to move on, the extra draft capital would beneficial to fill out this roster and especially the depth on the oline. 
Well, it sounds like the Vikings had some calls about teams trading up, but I'm guessing it was too far down in the draft where they didn't think they could get Bradbury (their prime target) or another OL they liked.

If you look at the trades that happened, you had the Packers who obviously wanted Savage...  then Baltimore immediately trades out of their spot right behind the Packers (Savage was likely their target) and the Eagles moved up...

Let's say it was the Eagles who wanted to move up for Dillard at 18 since they traded with Baltimore to get him...  they get 18, we drop down to 25 and then Denver (who needs a C) grabs Bradbury at 20 instead of Noah Fant.  Now, we missed out on Dillard AND Bradbury and have no one left in our top tier of OL to pick from... and all we get in return is a mid-round pick.

I think the Vikings made the right call to stay at their spot and get their guy.


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Quote: @Amazonviking said:
The target of Bradbury clearly shows the O-line direction we are going.  Get athletic and smart inside.  If you can imagine going from Compton, Elf and Remmers to Elf (or a possible draft pick yet to come), Bradbury and Kline.  I actually really like Kline in an outside zone scheme which the Titans and Patriots ran when he was ascending as a player, Titans switched to a power scheme and he struggled.  

I'm not sure we go OL with this next pick at 50, but I think a guy like Connor McGovern would be a great pick up that groom as a potential 4 spot backup (RT, G and C) and eventual starter.  I also and very high on Pipkin's a little later than McGovern.

I still hate that we picked a center at 18 with plenty of interest to trade down.  Unless we have trade interest in Rudolph, Wayne or Griffen that we are willing to move on, the extra draft capital would beneficial to fill out this roster and especially the depth on the oline. 
Love McGovern, but I'm not sure about fit. 

I still believe that a Waynes trade is very possible. Sounds like Houston is where he could end up. If we take a TE in the 2nd then I'll bet we'll see Rudy moved before day's end. Reiff is a possibility too. Don't thing Griffen is though. Can't imagine they'd work with him to restructure and then ship him off, but who knows. 


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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@Amazonviking said:
The target of Bradbury clearly shows the O-line direction we are going.  Get athletic and smart inside.  If you can imagine going from Compton, Elf and Remmers to Elf (or a possible draft pick yet to come), Bradbury and Kline.  I actually really like Kline in an outside zone scheme which the Titans and Patriots ran when he was ascending as a player, Titans switched to a power scheme and he struggled.  

I'm not sure we go OL with this next pick at 50, but I think a guy like Connor McGovern would be a great pick up that groom as a potential 4 spot backup (RT, G and C) and eventual starter.  I also and very high on Pipkin's a little later than McGovern.

I still hate that we picked a center at 18 with plenty of interest to trade down.  Unless we have trade interest in Rudolph, Wayne or Griffen that we are willing to move on, the extra draft capital would beneficial to fill out this roster and especially the depth on the oline. 
Love McGovern, but I'm not sure about fit. 

I still believe that a Waynes trade is very possible. Sounds like Houston is where he could end up. If we take a TE in the 2nd then I'll bet we'll see Rudy moved before day's end. Reiff is a possibility too. Don't thing Griffen is though. Can't imagine they'd work with him to restructure and then ship him off, but who knows. 


Re Griffen: that was my thought, but yesterday I heard a remark on the radio (someone being interviewed, didn't catch the name) that his new contract made Griffen easier to trade - the team acquiring him didn't have to deal with his old $12M cap hit. Hard to know.
Rudolph: I think he could have been traded if we picked Hockenson or Fant, but are the rest of the TEs available the type we would deem an instant starter? A player like Oliver or Warring could be an extra receiving TE right away but might need a year to play full-time.

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Quote: @Jor-El said:
@MaroonBells said:
@Amazonviking said:
The target of Bradbury clearly shows the O-line direction we are going.  Get athletic and smart inside.  If you can imagine going from Compton, Elf and Remmers to Elf (or a possible draft pick yet to come), Bradbury and Kline.  I actually really like Kline in an outside zone scheme which the Titans and Patriots ran when he was ascending as a player, Titans switched to a power scheme and he struggled.  

I'm not sure we go OL with this next pick at 50, but I think a guy like Connor McGovern would be a great pick up that groom as a potential 4 spot backup (RT, G and C) and eventual starter.  I also and very high on Pipkin's a little later than McGovern.

I still hate that we picked a center at 18 with plenty of interest to trade down.  Unless we have trade interest in Rudolph, Wayne or Griffen that we are willing to move on, the extra draft capital would beneficial to fill out this roster and especially the depth on the oline. 
Love McGovern, but I'm not sure about fit. 

I still believe that a Waynes trade is very possible. Sounds like Houston is where he could end up. If we take a TE in the 2nd then I'll bet we'll see Rudy moved before day's end. Reiff is a possibility too. Don't thing Griffen is though. Can't imagine they'd work with him to restructure and then ship him off, but who knows. 


Re Griffen: that was my thought, but yesterday I heard a remark on the radio (someone being interviewed, didn't catch the name) that his new contract made Griffen easier to trade - the team acquiring him didn't have to deal with his old $12M cap hit. Hard to know.
Rudolph: I think he could have been traded if we picked Hockenson or Fant, but are the rest of the TEs available the type we would deem an instant starter? A player like Oliver or Warring could be an extra receiving TE right away but might need a year to play full-time.

Good point about TE. Even if you get a guy like Irv or Sternberger, does that give you enough confidence to move Rudy? Maybe not. 

Interesting about Griffen's contract. 
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Griffen's contract is very tradable.  They basically removed all the guarantees out of the contract and while it still has 3 years remaining cutting him would cost nothing against the cap after this year (sans about 400k).

I could see him being moved after the draft more so than during.

Rudy and Waynes are different stories, they can be moved with no cap impact to the Vikings.  The benefit to teams trading for either of them is both are to be free agents, and if they have the cap space, they can get a 1 year rent with the option to own, and if they pass both should qualify for comp picks in next years draft.  Rudy fits perfectly for what the Pats will likely be interested in trading for, I see him getting us a 3rd easily from someone.  Waynes should at worst be a second.
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