OL and OC coach options

[Vikergirl]

Where do they go from here? Those are very important positions to fill.

[Guest]

new head coach 

[Guest]

I'll interview for O line.  Give up my teaching career and coaching freshmen....ya...sure...

Fire up the jet Zygi.....SKOL bitches.

[Guest]

After testing the "rising young star" waters, I think I'd like to go with proven talent this time around. At both spots. Not some over-the-hill Norv Turner type, but someone with a proven record of play calling at OC, and a real "hoss-whisperer" on the line. 

[Guest]

Doesn't matter: its the offensive line. Nobody is going to make chicken salad out of that chicken shit unit without upgrades. 

[Guest]

@StickyBun said:
Doesn't matter: its the offensive line. Nobody is going to make chicken salad out of that chicken shit unit without upgrades. 

You'd be surprised what a good O line coach can do, even WITH chickenshit there's a LOT of technique. D linemen are often faster, and have a fantastic repertoire of moves, especially in pass pro. Personally I hate waiting and giving too much ground in pass pro.
I teach our guys to strike first on every play, right at the "cut" of the opponents pads (above the solar plexus) and drive the pads up.  It changes the spine angle of the D lineman, when that happens you now can control them.  Keep pads parallel at all times, and if a D lineman try's something cute, get into their ribs /armpit. But you can't wait on them three or four steps before striking / engaging (Hate that). They can crossbar out, but you've gotta train every day on how to refit quickly.

you try and swim, get under that armpit, and he will be on his ass.
Try to rip, and drive that lower shoulder down.

Run blocking more straight forward.  Gotta maintain good footwork / hand position is key.
cant block a a body "across" from your helmet, so sometimes you've gotta bucket step on the play side, and that can be tough for "grunts". O linemen need a repertoire every bit as much as D line do.  And it all starts by firing out, striking first, keeping a wide triangular base, hand position and driving the legs
we don't have the biggest linemen on our HS team, so technique is vital.

[Guest]

@Vanguard83 said:

@StickyBun said:
Doesn't matter: its the offensive line. Nobody is going to make chicken salad out of that chicken shit unit without upgrades. 

You'd be surprised what a good O line coach can do, even WITH chickenshit there's a LOT of technique. D linemen are often faster, and have a fantastic repertoire of moves, especially in pass pro. Personally I hate waiting and giving too much ground in pass pro.
I teach our guys to strike first on every play, right at the "cut" of the opponents pads (above the solar plexus) and drive the pads up.  It changes the spine angle of the D lineman, when that happens you now can control them.  Keep pads parallel at all times, and if a D lineman try's something cute, get into their ribs /armpit. But you can't wait on them three or four steps before striking / engaging (Hate that). They can crossbar out, but you've gotta train every day on how to refit quickly.

you try and swim, get under that armpit, and he will be on his ass.
Try to rip, and drive that lower shoulder down.

we don't have the biggest linemen on our HS team, so technique is vital.

In the NFL, its all about the players. In high school? Yeah, I agree with you. 

[Guest]

It matters who the coach is. I think Sparano was starting to make some headway. His loss was huge. I know we all say next man up but that kind of loss lingers. In addition to the personnel issues, losing him compounded everything. Now is the time to get serious about who is hired on the field and off the field. 

[Guest]

@StickyBun said:

@Vanguard83 said:

@StickyBun said:
Doesn't matter: its the offensive line. Nobody is going to make chicken salad out of that chicken shit unit without upgrades. 

You'd be surprised what a good O line coach can do, even WITH chickenshit there's a LOT of technique. D linemen are often faster, and have a fantastic repertoire of moves, especially in pass pro. Personally I hate waiting and giving too much ground in pass pro.
I teach our guys to strike first on every play, right at the "cut" of the opponents pads (above the solar plexus) and drive the pads up.  It changes the spine angle of the D lineman, when that happens you now can control them.  Keep pads parallel at all times, and if a D lineman try's something cute, get into their ribs /armpit. But you can't wait on them three or four steps before striking / engaging (Hate that). They can crossbar out, but you've gotta train every day on how to refit quickly.

you try and swim, get under that armpit, and he will be on his ass.
Try to rip, and drive that lower shoulder down.

we don't have the biggest linemen on our HS team, so technique is vital.

In the NFL, its all about the players. In high school? Yeah, I agree with you. 

I think problems in blocking start in high school, even in junior tackle, JAAF, Pop Warner.  coaches tell linemen to "open a hole", without teaching them HOW. In my neck of the woods, fewer kids are playing, and won't start until high school, which in my opinion actually INCREASES chances for injury, as kids are faster / stronger. Parents are freaked out about concussions, etc.  There are rare instances, but most O linemen won't get decent coaching until college, and by that time, they've developed some awkward techniques.

[Guest]

Another of my pet peeves at all levels on O line is "big steps",
with only ONE foot in the ground you're gonna get worked, 

If you're giving ground, you've gotta "hop and drop" (feet & butt) and refit those hands under the cut of a D linemans pads.

yeah....I'm a lot of fun at practice...LOL