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Nothing against Cousins, I think he's underrated, but he's on the line for 2 more guaranteed contract seasons after this one. Great time period for a young rookie to sit and learn with no pressure. The game is changing and I think its time to look toward that evolution in the next Gen QB in Minnesota. Take a big upside kid, maybe a bit raw. But athletic. Maybe in rounds 2-4 somewhere. He'd learn great QB habits, work ethic and professionalism from Cousins. Can win with this roster and Cousins, but now is the time to prepare for the near future also. I don't see Minnesota committing to another contract with Cousins if this team doesn't get to a Superbowl at the end of his deal.
You can see where the NFL is going. If your name isn't Brady, Big Ben, Rodgers or Brees, you need some mobility and a bigger arm.
there should always be a QB in waiting IMO, to big of a position to not have a plan B in the system. if its not Sloter then yes, they damn well better be getting one in here.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
there should always be a QB in waiting IMO, to big of a position to not have a plan B in the system. if its not Sloter then yes, they damn well better be getting one in here.
Yep. We'll see exactly how the team feels about Sloter this offseason and during the Draft. Sloter has the athletic ability and arm strength, just don't know if the team views him as a possible #1 guy. That might be a bridge too far for the kid.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
there should always be a QB in waiting IMO, to big of a position to not have a plan B in the system. if its not Sloter then yes, they damn well better be getting one in here.
Yep. We'll see exactly how the team feels about Sloter this offseason and during the Draft. Sloter has the athletic ability and arm strength, just don't know if the team views him as a possible #1 guy. That might be a bridge too far for the guy.
I wouldnt be opposed to seeing him get some game experience down the stretch this year if the situation allows. they obviously arent going to activate him if playoffs are on the line, but getting him out there for a few quarters if the situation is decided would at least give the fans a reason to tune in. of course if he looks good then you will have a 60 million dollar skism.. so likely not to see him anytime soon. adding his athleticism to this O with the big arm could spark something.. Cousins seems to be in a fog the last few weeks... I am thinking shell shocked or playing through something that we arent privy to.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
there should always be a QB in waiting IMO, to big of a position to not have a plan B in the system. if its not Sloter then yes, they damn well better be getting one in here.
Yep. We'll see exactly how the team feels about Sloter this offseason and during the Draft. Sloter has the athletic ability and arm strength, just don't know if the team views him as a possible #1 guy. That might be a bridge too far for the kid.
I don't think they see him as a # 1 either. Perhaps because of his size. But looking back to this years preseason, he was the only Vikings QB that played well. And he did play well. Cousins looked like check down Charlie, other than one throw to Diggs against Denver. And Siemian looked terrible.
Sloter was placed in limbo when Cousins was signed. I'm not saying he has the potential to be Drew Brees, but I fear they will never give him the chance to find out. He has performed well every time he has had a chance to.
Two weaknesses in Spielman's ability to evaluate talent are QB and offensive linemen!
Quote: @jargomcfargo said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
there should always be a QB in waiting IMO, to big of a position to not have a plan B in the system. if its not Sloter then yes, they damn well better be getting one in here.
Yep. We'll see exactly how the team feels about Sloter this offseason and during the Draft. Sloter has the athletic ability and arm strength, just don't know if the team views him as a possible #1 guy. That might be a bridge too far for the kid.
I don't think they see him as a # 1 either. Perhaps because of his size. But looking back to this years preseason, he was the only Vikings QB that played well. And he did play well. Cousins looked like check down Charlie, other than one throw to Diggs against Denver. And Siemian looked terrible.
Sloter was placed in limbo when Cousins was signed. I'm not saying he has the potential to be Drew Brees, but I fear they will never give him the chance to find out. He has performed well every time he has had a chance to.
Two weaknesses in Spielman's ability to evaluate talent are QB and offensive linemen!
whats wrong with his size? 6-4 and about 220 seems about perfect IMO.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
there should always be a QB in waiting IMO, to big of a position to not have a plan B in the system. if its not Sloter then yes, they damn well better be getting one in here.
Yep. We'll see exactly how the team feels about Sloter this offseason and during the Draft. Sloter has the athletic ability and arm strength, just don't know if the team views him as a possible #1 guy. That might be a bridge too far for the kid.
All we have to go on is what we've seen to date. 6-5, 220, good arm, good mobility, 73% completion percentage, 800 yards, 7 TDs, 0 INTs, for a QB rating around 120...albeit in preseason games (against 3s, but also using 3s).
Any of this mean he has a future in the NFL? Of course not. But it does mean you give him every opportunity to prove he's not the next Tony Romo, Kurt Warner or Warren Moon before you let another team get a crack at him.
I'd draft a QB, too. We have to replace Siemian, which we could probably do with a late rounder. But we also have to guard against Sloter not taking the next step, so I'd bump that up to 4th round, which is an area where he probably has enough upside to compete directly with Sloter for #2.
Ha! Strategically, you are probably right. But never going to happen because Spielman convinced the Wilfs to invest $84M in Cousins. Why would he do anything to suggest that it wasn't a fantastic decision that will result in a Lombardi Trophy or two and no more worries about that pesky QB position?
I think our clear priority for the offseason is getting 2
legit starting caliber guards, whether it’s in FA or the draft. We need an OLine in front of whatever QB we
have and to give our OC a chance to run a balanced offense. If we need to use our first two picks in the
draft on OLine, than so be it. I’m 100%
in alignment with picking up another QB though, as long as it doesn’t interfere
with us getting our OLine figured out. I
just don’t want another subpar FA pickup as part of the solution. Best FA available and/or the best prospects
we can get.
Quote: @Jor-El said:
Ha! Strategically, you are probably right. But never going to happen because Spielman convinced the Wilfs to invest $84M in Cousins. Why would he do anything to suggest that it wasn't a fantastic decision that will result in a Lombardi Trophy or two and no more worries about that pesky QB position?
That's why it should be a 4th rounder. A player who will never be confused as competition for Cousins, but someone who can compete with Sloter as our #2.
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