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purplefaithful · 08-25-2018, 11:14 AM

Reminded me why he's a priority to re-sign...

08-25-2018, 01:05 PM

I used to think that he was expendable. After last nights performance, I'd have to change my mind. He looked like our best defender out there.

08-25-2018, 01:35 PM

Isn’t that the problem though.... He flashes and then disappears? He needed to produce to get top dollar but once he signs.... he goes back to watching Kendricks make all the plays.

08-25-2018, 04:40 PM

Quote: @Bezerker88 said:
Isn’t that the problem though.... He flashes and then disappears? He needed to produce to get top dollar but once he signs.... he goes back to watching Kendricks make all the plays.

He already has more production at his age than any LB Mike Zimmer has ever coached and he can flat out cover for his size. Not very many guys like him in the whole League.

When you're out there shutting down passes to RBs in the flat it's hard to make splash plays.

08-25-2018, 05:08 PM

There are multiple reasons why Zimmer wanted him in the draft and it still holds up. He has the size and quickness. He also is a very smart guy. But like any player, there have been injuries and the natural ebb and flow of the learning curve. Zimmer doesn't want to let go of a guy that he has worked with, watched develop and sees further growth from. And why should he? He fits this defense and adds to it. If I had to choose and this has come up before, between Waynes and Barr, I am choosing Barr. Nothing against Waynes, I really like him. I am just saying between the two, that's who I'd go with.

08-26-2018, 02:23 PM

Quote: @pumpf said:
I used to think that he was expendable. After last nights performance, I'd have to change my mind. He looked like our best defender out there.

I am in the same boat as you! I was real luke warm on him for a while and you know what? We had good reason to have those opinions. He was on the side of a milk carton for a while but I think that he was also adjusting and he seems to have it figured out.

08-26-2018, 02:43 PM

He could still be re-signed and I have been fostering the idea it could still be announced before week 1. We'll see.
There is also the possibility that letting him play out his contract is an intentional motivation - that the coaches know it brings out the best in him, and that a monster season by Barr could make this defense dominant.

08-27-2018, 12:52 PM

Quote: @FSUVike said:

@Bezerker88 said:
Isn’t that the problem though.... He flashes and then disappears? He needed to produce to get top dollar but once he signs.... he goes back to watching Kendricks make all the plays.
He already has more production at his age than any LB Mike Zimmer has ever coached and he can flat out cover for his size. Not very many guys like him in the whole League.

When you're out there shutting down passes to RBs in the flat it's hard to make splash plays.

Many of our defenders do their job well and are avoided. He does his job and allows the defense to be special. Huge LB that has tremendous acceleration. And he has Rodger's number.

08-27-2018, 01:53 PM

Quote: @Bezerker88 said:
Isn’t that the problem though.... He flashes and then disappears? He needed to produce to get top dollar but once he signs.... he goes back to watching Kendricks make all the plays.

which one of our defenders hasnt done that early in their careers? even later in their careers? its part of being a good/great player, teams scheme to take you away from their game plan but in doing so they open up opportunities for your teammates. I think a lot of what Barr does isnt seen as a Barr stat, but its often because of what he is doing. kinda like coverage sacks credit still goes to a Dlineman the finally gets home even though its the guys on the backend that make it happen.

08-27-2018, 02:12 PM

Quote: @FSUVike said:

@Bezerker88 said:
Isn’t that the problem though.... He flashes and then disappears? He needed to produce to get top dollar but once he signs.... he goes back to watching Kendricks make all the plays.
He already has more production at his age than any LB Mike Zimmer has ever coached and he can flat out cover for his size. Not very many guys like him in the whole League.

When you're out there shutting down passes to RBs in the flat it's hard to make splash plays.

Yet he's not a priority signing by the Vikings. If he was, he'd be signed right now. So the organization likes him as well they should, but not sure they love him.