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Johnny Football update
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I call bull shit.
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#4
probably click bait.  Nobody wants him.
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I still dont buy the story that the Vikes actually were going to take him over Teddy in that draft.  Yes they were going to move up,  but it was going to be Teddy all the way.   As much as Zim, Zyg, and Rick talk about high character people,  does anybody really think they were going to use a first round pick on a turd like manziel?  If anybody had any real information from Winter Park, I have to think it was leaked intentionally to throw the browns off our true intentions.   no way.
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
I still dont buy the story that the Vikes actually were going to take him over Teddy in that draft.  Yes they were going to move up,  but it was going to be Teddy all the way.   As much as Zim, Zyg, and Rick talk about high character people,  does anybody really think they were going to use a first round pick on a turd like manziel?  If anybody had any real information from Winter Park, I have to think it was leaked intentionally to throw the browns off our true intentions.   no way.
I wish I could believe that. In my opinion, Rick Spielman has been a brilliant GM, with the exception of two moves: drafting Ponder, and this nauseating feeling I get that it may be true he wanted Johnny Football over Teddy freaking Bridgewater. 

What's weird is that it's like top secret information. Nobody in the organization will talk about it. That's either because it's true or Rick is one sneaky bastard, and if he has any hopes of continuing to use the Browns as his bitch, he'd best keep his mouth shut.

Man, I just don't know. 
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
I still dont buy the story that the Vikes actually were going to take him over Teddy in that draft.  Yes they were going to move up,  but it was going to be Teddy all the way.   As much as Zim, Zyg, and Rick talk about high character people,  does anybody really think they were going to use a first round pick on a turd like manziel?  If anybody had any real information from Winter Park, I have to think it was leaked intentionally to throw the browns off our true intentions.   no way.
I wish I could believe that. In my opinion, Rick Spielman has been a brilliant GM, with the exception of two moves: drafting Ponder, and this nauseating feeling I get that it may be true he wanted Johnny Football over Teddy freaking Bridgewater. 

What's weird is that it's like top secret information. Nobody in the organization will talk about it. That's either because it's true or Rick is one sneaky bastard, and if he has any hopes of continuing to use the Browns as his bitch, he'd best keep his mouth shut.

Man, I just don't know. 
honestly... i dont think it was Ricks call on that one.   I am betting after all the work that Norv did with Teddy,  that if they had taken manziel that Zim and Norv would have beat him to death with football for dummies book.  but i think Rick does like to use a lot of subterfuge in his comments to the media and even known leaks in his office.
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
I still dont buy the story that the Vikes actually were going to take him over Teddy in that draft.  Yes they were going to move up,  but it was going to be Teddy all the way.   As much as Zim, Zyg, and Rick talk about high character people,  does anybody really think they were going to use a first round pick on a turd like manziel?  If anybody had any real information from Winter Park, I have to think it was leaked intentionally to throw the browns off our true intentions.   no way.
I wish I could believe that. In my opinion, Rick Spielman has been a brilliant GM, with the exception of two moves: drafting Ponder, and this nauseating feeling I get that it may be true he wanted Johnny Football over Teddy freaking Bridgewater. 

What's weird is that it's like top secret information. Nobody in the organization will talk about it. That's either because it's true or Rick is one sneaky bastard, and if he has any hopes of continuing to use the Browns as his bitch, he'd best keep his mouth shut.

Man, I just don't know. 
Someone keeps perpetuating that talk, so I would wager it is very good smoke screen from Rick.
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Quote: @greediron said:
@MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
I still dont buy the story that the Vikes actually were going to take him over Teddy in that draft.  Yes they were going to move up,  but it was going to be Teddy all the way.   As much as Zim, Zyg, and Rick talk about high character people,  does anybody really think they were going to use a first round pick on a turd like manziel?  If anybody had any real information from Winter Park, I have to think it was leaked intentionally to throw the browns off our true intentions.   no way.
I wish I could believe that. In my opinion, Rick Spielman has been a brilliant GM, with the exception of two moves: drafting Ponder, and this nauseating feeling I get that it may be true he wanted Johnny Football over Teddy freaking Bridgewater. 

What's weird is that it's like top secret information. Nobody in the organization will talk about it. That's either because it's true or Rick is one sneaky bastard, and if he has any hopes of continuing to use the Browns as his bitch, he'd best keep his mouth shut.

Man, I just don't know. 
Someone keeps perpetuating that talk, so I would wager it is very good smoke screen from Rick.
if thats true, why did they wait until pick 32 to trade up to take him?  I mean they risked other teams taking him if he was their coveted guy.
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Quote: @Purplewhizz said:
@greediron said:
@MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
I still dont buy the story that the Vikes actually were going to take him over Teddy in that draft.  Yes they were going to move up,  but it was going to be Teddy all the way.   As much as Zim, Zyg, and Rick talk about high character people,  does anybody really think they were going to use a first round pick on a turd like manziel?  If anybody had any real information from Winter Park, I have to think it was leaked intentionally to throw the browns off our true intentions.   no way.
I wish I could believe that. In my opinion, Rick Spielman has been a brilliant GM, with the exception of two moves: drafting Ponder, and this nauseating feeling I get that it may be true he wanted Johnny Football over Teddy freaking Bridgewater. 

What's weird is that it's like top secret information. Nobody in the organization will talk about it. That's either because it's true or Rick is one sneaky bastard, and if he has any hopes of continuing to use the Browns as his bitch, he'd best keep his mouth shut.

Man, I just don't know. 
Someone keeps perpetuating that talk, so I would wager it is very good smoke screen from Rick.
if thats true, why did they wait until pick 32 to trade up to take him?  I mean they risked other teams taking him if he was their coveted guy.
??  They didn't draft him, Cleveland did.

As to Teddy, they drafted him in the first round to get that extra year and because they found a willing trade partner at 32 I guess.  You would have to ask Rick for more details.
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