Will the Vikings trade down?

[MaroonBells]

As it stands right now, I think the Vikings will either take Keldric Faulk or Dillon Thieneman at 18 or trade down big for one of the IDLs.

New England makes some sense. They sit at 31 and need WR, OT and Edge, three positions that have good value at 18, but also positions we likely won't be drafting in the 1st round. Pats were in the Super Bowl last year and could see themselves one impact player away.

Moving all the way from 18 to 31 should get us their 2nd rounder, plus a 5th. Woods, McDonald, Banks or EMW have a lot better value at 31 than they do at 18, and having FIVE picks between 31 and 97, where the value is the flattest in this draft would be a very good thing.

[StickierBuns]

I think it might depend if Greenard gets traded on or just before Draft day. JMO, but I think a VERY good impactful player can be had at #18....I'd stick and pick. I guess I'm not a huge fan of getting late 4ths or 5th rounders in moving down. If Minnesota trades Greenard, they could have an impactful draft that would cement a very quick turnaround for the franchise if they hit on those AND get a QB1 locked down for 2027: I mean you'd have 5+ picks in the top 97 off the board with a JG trade. HUGE. That would take the Vikings from looking into the abyss with KAM to substantial replenishment/talent turnaround in record time potentially.

[purplefaithful]

Too hard to predict ahead of time for me. Ive watched/listened to enough of these drafts to know what I dont want in a trade-down..

This one hurt in 1981:

The Vikings traded their 1st round pick (18th overall) to the Baltimore Colts for multiple picks (39th, 52nd, and 123rd overall).

• 2nd Round (39th overall): Mardye McDole, WR, Mississippi State
  
• 2nd Round (45th overall): Robin Sendlein, LB, Texas
  
• 2nd Round (52nd overall): Jarvis Redwine, RB, Nebraska
  

This was also they draft they traded Foreman to the Pats ( pick was T. Irwin) and drafted  Whiskey Wade Wilson in the 8th rd

[wiviking]

I don't think we trade the first round pick. This draft is happening without a GM. I would expect them to take a player that has start-now potential. Trying to be cute and showing everyone you are the smartest guy in the room is why we don't have Hamilton right now.

[MaroonBells]

I think it might depend if Greenard gets traded on or just before Draft day. JMO, but I think a VERY good impactful player can be had at #18....I'd stick and pick. I guess I'm not a huge fan of getting late 4ths or 5th rounders in moving down. If Minnesota trades Greenard, they could have an impactful draft that would cement a very quick turnaround for the franchise if they hit on those AND get a QB1 locked down for 2027: I mean you'd have 5+ picks in the top 97 off the board with a JG trade. HUGE. That would take the Vikings from looking into the abyss with KAM to substantial replenishment/talent turnaround in record time potentially.

OK, but think of it this way. If we trade down to 31, that earns us the 2nd rounder you want (plus some change) AND we still have Greenard. I'd rather do it that way. Especially when you consider many believe this draft has 11 or 12 true first round picks and the value between 12 and 100 is pretty flat.

[StickierBuns]

OK, but think of it this way. If we trade down to 31, that earns us the 2nd rounder you want (plus some change) AND we still have Greenard. I'd rather do it that way. Especially when you consider many believe this draft has 11 or 12 true first round picks and the value between 12 and 100 is pretty flat.

I guess its subjective and if you believe that there are only 11 true first rounders.....but I'm pretty dubious of pre-Draft analyzing a particular overall class as 'worse than normal, normal or better than normal'. Only in retrospect and 2 or 3 years can anyone know. Its just such an inexact science (drafting). The issue for me is Greenard and Turner play exactly the same spot....the rumor is Greenard wants to get paid and Minnesota doesn't seem overly excited about it nor do any trade partners as that is the rumored hangup, money and an extension. I think Minnesota is very wary of making more bad deals.

[comet52]

I don't think we trade the first round pick. This draft is happening without a GM. I would expect them to take a player that has start-now potential. Trying to be cute and showing everyone you are the smartest guy in the room is why we don't have Hamilton right now.

Agreed.

[StickierBuns]

I don't think we trade the first round pick. This draft is happening without a GM. I would expect them to take a player that has start-now potential. Trying to be cute and showing everyone you are the smartest guy in the room is why we don't have Hamilton right now.

But that's not what they'd be doing.....if they were to trade down, its because it would be the right decision if they determine that spot a lesser-than option for BPA. The issue we've had with KAM most times is he'd trade down and then our selections would be hot dog shit. But that doesn't mean the theory of 'trading down' is or was the wrong decision, it just means the team sucked at selecting players after doing so. Its just like there's an optimal way to play Texas Hold 'Em poker, but making the right choices doesn't mean you can't take a bad beat on the river. 

It still comes down to selecting the right players when you pick.

[JimmyinSD]

But that's not what they'd be doing.....if they were to trade down, its because it would be the right decision if they determine that spot a lesser-than option for BPA. The issue we've had with KAM most times is he'd trade down and then our selections would be hot dog shit. But that doesn't mean the theory of 'trading down' is or was the wrong decision, it just means the team sucked at selecting players after doing so. Its just like there's an optimal way to play Texas Hold 'Em poker, but making the right choices doesn't mean you can't take a bad beat on the river. 

It still comes down to selecting the right players when you pick.

I think the Cine/Hamilton thing was exactly a situation where KAM thought he was smarter,  I can see the draft pick upside to dropping down, but I also want to see this teams scouts identify players and just get them,  dont worry about value or potentially a couple more late round picks,  I want to see them take their guys when they get the chance,  dont trade down and end up losing out and then taking the consolation prize and making excuses as to why we still have a bunch of holes in our lineup.  we always hear about how draft picks are crap shoots,  well the odds of hitting also decline the further you drop down the boards,  so maybe just try sticking and picking instead of playing  a numbers game with the lower talent pool IMO.

[medaille]

I think we’ll do little trade downs. I don’t think a big one is in the cards, mostly because no prospect will be worth giving that much up for, but teams might move a few picks to get the guy they want. I think we’ll be targeting a DT and I think there’s more than one acceptable answer and they’re all kind of mocked near our pick or later. I think Caleb Banks is the perfect DT for us and a lot of people have him mocked below us, so I could see us trading down to where he is still likely to be available, but I highly doubt he makes it to our second round pick as the athletic profile is just too good.

I could also see us trade up a couple of picks to get Caleb Downs if for some reason he falls to within reach as he is the Harrison Smith replacement everyone wants.