The man’s on a mission..

[Waterboy]

Mideast peace on the horizon?  It’s just incredible the difference true leadership can make 

https://www.newsmatwitter.com/newsmax-tv...d/1216478/

[badgervike]

Mideast peace on the horizon?  It’s just incredible the difference true leadership can make 

https://www.newsmatwitter.com/newsmax-tv...d/1216478/

You get your Daily dose of Trump fluffing out of your system?  I can never see any of your Newsmax posts but gathered from the title it was about the Abraham Accords and possible expansion.  Certainly, neutering Iran will jump start those discussions but I can't see any movement until the Gaza situation is settled.  No Middle East country is going to jump on a peace agreement with Israel...while they're occupying Gaza.

[Waterboy]

You get your Daily dose of Trump fluffing out of your system?  I can never see any of your Newsmax posts but gathered from the title it was about the Abraham Accords and possible expansion.  Certainly, neutering Iran will jump start those discussions but I can't see any movement until the Gaza situation is settled.  No Middle East country is going to jump on a peace agreement with Israel...while they're occupying Gaza.

I believe Syria and Lebanon are already on board and there are reasons more that the Iran Israel negotiation will involve Gaza.  I guess it’s fluffing when a guy has removed a nuclear threat from a rogue regime that was developing ICBM’s and highly enriched uranium. I guess it’s also fluff when the guy is on the verge of creating peace in the Mideast. Maybe people could and should see what the guy is accomplishing?   I think him achieving or on the verge of achieving these objectives may be worthy of mention, but that’s me.

[badgervike]

I believe Syria and Lebanon are already on board and there are reasons more that the Iran Israel negotiation will involve Gaza.  I guess it’s fluffing when a guy has removed a nuclear threat from a rogue regime that was developing ICBM’s and highly enriched uranium. I guess it’s also fluff when the guy is on the verge of creating peace in the Mideast. Maybe people could and should see what the guy is accomplishing?   I think him achieving or on the verge of achieving these objectives may be worthy of mention, but that’s me.

I still have a worry about Iran and their nuclear ambitions.  If we assume Iran's 60% processed Uranium isn't buried under a mountain of rubble, I could certainly imagine Iran trading 60% processed Uranium and oil to somebody like North Korea for 90% metalized Uranium.  Lots of moving parts...a little early to be taking victory laps.

I think a lot of countries have agreed in principle to the Abraham accords...but it all hinges on resolving Gaza first.

[Waterboy]

I still have a worry about Iran and their nuclear ambitions.  If we assume Iran's 60% processed Uranium isn't buried under a mountain of rubble, I could certainly imagine Iran trading 60% processed Uranium and oil to somebody like North Korea for 90% metalized Uranium.  Lots of moving parts...a little early to be taking victory laps.

I think a lot of countries have agreed in principle to the Abraham accords...but it all hinges on resolving Gaza first.

I’m pretty sure NK could give them a loaded nuke easier than the scenario you’re describing.  If Israel felt that the issue was not contained with their intelligence, there would not be a ceasefire.

[JimmyinSD]

I’m pretty sure NK could give them a loaded nuke easier than the scenario you’re describing.  If Israel felt that the issue was not contained with their intelligence, there would not be a ceasefire.

then here you have proven his case,  no time for victory laps or puffing ones chest,  that bombing run has only slowed their ability to become nuclear,  honestly there are so many ways for them to get nukes,  them developing their own almost seems stupid.  I am sure there are still warehouses of former soviet nukes laying around.

[Waterboy]

then here you have proven his case,  no time for victory laps or puffing ones chest,  that bombing run has only slowed their ability to become nuclear,  honestly there are so many ways for them to get nukes,  them developing their own almost seems stupid.  I am sure there are still warehouses of former soviet nukes laying around.

I didn't prove his case.  lol I'm saying other countries are not at ALL likely to support Iran getting Nukes.   Makes no sense when all of them are on the other side of the world by Iran.  I can see possibly NK because they're nuts but it's still not likely.  And the momentum of what has happened can make many more good things happen, kind of like when the wall fell.  I'm not sure where the heck victory laps entered the discussion.  Trump is using this to accelerate his agenda, and I'm all for it.

[JimmyinSD]

I didn't prove his case.  lol I'm saying other countries are not at ALL likely to support Iran getting Nukes.   Makes no sense when all of them are on the other side of the world by Iran.  I can see possibly NK because they're nuts but it's still not likely.  And the momentum of what has happened can make many more good things happen, kind of like when the wall fell.  I'm not sure where the heck victory laps entered the discussion.  Trump is using this to accelerate his agenda, and I'm all for it.

I can certainly see an axis and allies type of set up in the near future,  those that the US is at odds with could align, and start sharing resources to set up ww3, or at least to create a strong enough front to break our global control.

[badgervike]

I didn't prove his case.  lol I'm saying other countries are not at ALL likely to support Iran getting Nukes.   Makes no sense when all of them are on the other side of the world by Iran.  I can see possibly NK because they're nuts but it's still not likely.  And the momentum of what has happened can make many more good things happen, kind of like when the wall fell.  I'm not sure where the heck victory laps entered the discussion.  Trump is using this to accelerate his agenda, and I'm all for it.

North Korea, Russia and Pakistan have all assisted Iran's nuclear program.  As I said, NK (and possibly Pakistan) could certainly take 60% Uranium up to 90% and metalize it into cylinders and fly back to Iran who could put it together with their ballistic missile.  By doing it that way, it's easier to get materials around shipping embargoes than sending entire nuclear warheads.  It also gives the assisting countries some degree of separation in case the materials are discovered.  Bomb parts based on Iranian nuclear material is one thing.  Fully assembled warheads...that would certainly enlist a different global reaction.

I believe we significantly diminished Iran's nuclear program.  I also believed a cornered animal is most dangerous.  Let's put the team blue and team red pom poms away right now and concentrate on pressuring Iran into the global community...for real this time.

[Waterboy]

North Korea, Russia and Pakistan have all assisted Iran's nuclear program.  As I said, NK (and possibly Pakistan) could certainly take 60% Uranium up to 90% and metalize it into cylinders and fly back to Iran who could put it together with their ballistic missile.  By doing it that way, it's easier to get materials around shipping embargoes than sending entire nuclear warheads.  It also gives the assisting countries some degree of separation in case the materials are discovered.  Bomb parts based on Iranian nuclear material is one thing.  Fully assembled warheads...that would certainly enlist a different global reaction.

I believe we significantly diminished Iran's nuclear program.  I also believed a cornered animal is most dangerous.  Let's put the team blue and team red pom poms away right now and concentrate on pressuring Iran into the global community...for real this time.

For chrissakes, we downgraded their nuclear capabilities big time, we knocked down their missile inventory and military launch inventory.  NK and Pakistan already have these cylinders and would not need Iranian fuel to send these to them. I’m not saying walk away from this. I’m saying quite the opposite, sprint towards it and utilize the fact that they’re at a generational weak level and step on the accelerator.  We downgraded their nuclear program big time.  I don’t understand why you seem to be turning good news to bad and acting like we don’t have a reason to be happy about recent developments.  And yes, they are developments that wouldn’t have happened with blue Pom poms.