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Not a surprise, I actually like the Titans not wasting anyone's time. And they know nobody is going to blow them away with a comp deal to move up, not for Cam Ward.
We also know QB2 for Minnesota is something we'll find out at the end of the month, either Flacco or Tannehill. That will help JJM for a year to have that vet extra set of eyes and advice. My guess for QB2 in 2026 and year or two at KOC University:
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KOC did seem to like QR didn’t he? But man, this guy is so raw. A++ person but you can’t complete 50% of your passes? I’d trust KOC to advance his game but I’d go in a different direction.
Put on Will Levis tape from his junior year from Kentucky and tell me that’s not Josh Allen 2.0. At least with Levis you’ve got a guy who has done it at some point. He could probably be had this year for a swap of 26 late round picks.
Early in the process the Titans said they were picking a generational talent. I figured that was either Hunter or Carter. There’s nothing generational about Ward. Discount his position and he goes late 20s. Maybe later. But, they have PSLs to sell so we’ll see how that plays out.
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(04-06-2025, 06:49 AM)JustInTime Wrote: KOC did seem to like QR didn’t he? But man, this guy is so raw. A++ person but you can’t complete 50% of your passes? I’d trust KOC to advance his game but I’d go in a different direction.
Put on Will Levis tape from his junior year from Kentucky and tell me that’s not Josh Allen 2.0. At least with Levis you’ve got a guy who has done it at some point. He could probably be had this year for a swap of 26 late round picks.
Early in the process the Titans said they were picking a generational talent. I figured that was either Hunter or Carter. There’s nothing generational about Ward. Discount his position and he goes late 20s. Maybe later. But, they have PSLs to sell so we’ll see how that plays out.
Respect your opinion here, but I'm not a Will Levis fan: too flaky. Way to jacked for a QB. Can't be trusted with that kind of unhealthy adoration of mayonnaise. But seriously, he's an odd duck and really really bad when shit starts to break down. But the candidate has to have those intrinsic KOC valued traits that maybe only he quantifies to get accepted at KOC U so who knows, maybe Levis could be that guy. JMO as well, no idea at all. But there'll be candidates for sure. 
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(04-06-2025, 06:55 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Respect your opinion here, but I'm not a Will Levis fan: too flaky. Way to jacked for a QB. Can't be trusted with that kind of unhealthy adoration of mayonnaise. But seriously, he's an odd duck and really really bad when shit starts to break down. But the candidate has to have those intrinsic KOC valued traits that maybe only he quantifies to get accepted at KOC U so who knows, maybe Levis could be that guy. JMO as well, no idea at all. But there'll be candidates for sure. 
I don't see Levis coming here. KOC is good friends with his coach in college and had multiple opportunities to draft the kid and he passed. Lots of reasons good college QBs don't make it in the NFL and KOC appears to have been right about Levis. He's got an arm and can run, but he makes way too many boneheaded plays. He comes across super bro-ish in his interviews, I don't think he's got that "presence" like JJ McCarthy.
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(04-06-2025, 07:39 AM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: I don't see Levis coming here. KOC is good friends with his coach in college and had multiple opportunities to draft the kid and he passed. Lots of reasons good college QBs don't make it in the NFL and KOC appears to have been right about Levis. He's got an arm and can run, but he makes way too many boneheaded plays. He comes across super bro-ish in his interviews, I don't think he's got that "presence" like JJ McCarthy.
That relationship I didn’t know about. Interesting. That solves one mystery as I was a big Levis fanboy.
Grab Flacco or Tanneyhill and depending on what they think of Rypien grab a guy with some traits late in the draft and go from there. Hell, when you can get 2 wins with a previously 0-10 Josh Dobbs, you can maximize anyone.
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In looking at the remaining Q2 candidates that fits into the ideal QB for KOC to work with, I think it may be Drew Lock. If you think of about it, he is similar to Darnold in terms of a big guy with a great arm, whose biggest issues has been his decision making and footwork. Like Darnold, I think KOC could get the most of his abilities.
I do not think Tannehill brings a lot of value, a WR who was converted to a QB, he never really seemed like a true QB, has been out a year, is older and do not think he is offers anything for JJM in terms of mentorship. Flacco does fill that bucket, but at 40, how much does he have left in the tank if we need him to come in and play. I like the ideal of a younger backup who could play a good part of the season if necessary, which I do not see Tannehill or Flacco doing.
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(04-06-2025, 08:15 AM)JR44 Wrote: In looking at the remaining Q2 candidates that fits into the ideal QB for KOC to work with, I think it may be Drew Lock. If you think of about it, he is similar to Darnold in terms of a big guy with a great arm, whose biggest issues has been his decision making and footwork. Like Darnold, I think KOC could get the most of his abilities.
I do not think Tannehill brings a lot of value, a WR who was converted to a QB, he never really seemed like a true QB, has been out a year, is older and do not think he is offers anything for JJM in terms of mentorship. Flacco does fill that bucket, but at 40, how much does he have left in the tank if we need him to come in and play. I like the ideal of a younger backup who could play a good part of the season if necessary, which I do not see Tannehill or Flacco doing.
I will say this: the rumor was at one time Minnesota wanted to get Drew Lock. The Vikings either made some trade during the Draft, attempted to make a trade during the Draft or outside the Draft on something and they wanted to include Lock in the trade as an 'afterthought' to the other player and Denver wouldn't do it. I THINK it was Denver, it may have been one of the other teams he played for. Anyway I'm clear as mud here on that lol, but it was either Year 1 or Year 2 of KOC being here. Anyone remember that? Sadly, Drew's Dad just recently passed away, he was a Kansas City restauranteur....Drew played at nearby University of Missouri.
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(04-06-2025, 06:49 AM)JustInTime Wrote: Put on Will Levis tape from his junior year from Kentucky and tell me that’s not Josh Allen 2.0. At least with Levis you’ve got a guy who has done it at some point. He could probably be had this year for a swap of 26 late round picks. I thought we'd draft Levis when we had the chance but clearly KAM/KOC had a bigger long term vision. His college stuff didn't look great to me but I liked his fiery quality. So far he's just another erratic NFL wannabe.
Quote:Early in the process the Titans said they were picking a generational talent. I figured that was either Hunter or Carter. There’s nothing generational about Ward. Discount his position and he goes late 20s. Maybe later. But, they have PSLs to sell so we’ll see how that plays out.
Keep in mind it's the Titans who in recent years have made a lot of bad decisions. One team's generational talent is another team's pile of crap.
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I think the Titans will regret not trading down a spot or 2 and grabbing Carter out of Penn St.
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I would not mind rolling the dice on Levis as a backup. All the recipes were there to fail a young QB in Tennessee. Coaching change-check, learning two different systems in his two years in the league-check, getting pummeled behind a subpar offensive line-check, having no weapons and letting your running game walk out the door in free agency- double check. He certainly has talent himself and we've seen it in spurts. Big arm, can make all the throws. Just like any young QB it comes down to eliminating mistakes when the play breaks down.
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