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AGRforever · 01-27-2025, 11:56 AM

Talk about heartbreak. You draft a QB as good as Josh Allen is only to go against Pat Mahomes in repeat appearances at the championship game and just can't get over the hump.

JJM is going to need to be world class if we're going to beat teams like Detroit and Philadelphia in the coming years.

StickierBuns · 01-27-2025, 12:17 PM

(01-27-2025, 11:56 AM)AGRforever Wrote: Talk about heartbreak. You draft a QB as good as Josh Allen is only to go against Pat Mahomes in repeat appearances at the championship game and just can't get over the hump.

JJM is going to need to be world class if we're going to beat teams like Detroit and Philadelphia in the coming years.

Not sure about world class, but he'll need to be very good. The team needs improvements. Allen took a little time to become who he is right now. This will be JJ's first year starting so he won't be perfect.

MaroonBells · 01-27-2025, 12:25 PM

(01-27-2025, 11:56 AM)AGRforever Wrote: Talk about heartbreak. You draft a QB as good as Josh Allen is only to go against Pat Mahomes in repeat appearances at the championship game and just can't get over the hump.

JJM is going to need to be world class if we're going to beat teams like Detroit and Philadelphia in the coming years.

He'll have to be good, but keep in mind the Vikings will have a QB on a rookie deal for quite some time, meaning they'll have money to put top-level talent around JJ. Goff's cap hit in 2025 is $32M, $69M the following year. Roseman did some voodoo economics with Hurts' contract. Hurts' cap hit in 2025 is only $21M, then a pretty reasonable $31M the following year. Still, as it is now, the Vikings have nearly 3 times the cap space as the Eagles in 2025.

One consequence of that could be DT Milton Williams. It's not likely the Eagles will be able to keep him and the Vikings desperately need better inside pass rush.

Bullazin · 01-27-2025, 01:01 PM

(01-27-2025, 12:25 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: He'll have to be good, but keep in mind the Vikings will have a QB on a rookie deal for quite some time, meaning they'll have money to put top-level talent around JJ. Goff's cap hit in 2025 is $32M, $69M the following year. Roseman did some voodoo economics with Hurts' contract. Hurts' cap hit in 2025 is only $21M, then a pretty reasonable $31M the following year. Still, as it is now, the Vikings have nearly 3 times the cap space as the Eagles in 2025.

One consequence of that could be DT Milton Williams. It's not likely the Eagles will be able to keep him and the Vikings desperately need better inside pass rush.

When is the last time we picked a high quality piece in the 3rd round? The Eagles drafted so well. This 2024 class needs to be a home run for us.

MaroonBells · 01-27-2025, 01:19 PM

(01-27-2025, 01:01 PM)Bullazin Wrote: When is the last time we picked a high quality piece in the 3rd round? The Eagles drafted so well. This 2024 class needs to be a home run for us.

Mekhi Blackmon looks like a pretty good 3rd rounder from 2023. Before that, Danielle Hunter.

But remember it was Howie Roseman who took Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson. I think he took that personally because they've drafted really well since then.

greediron · 01-27-2025, 01:27 PM

(01-27-2025, 01:19 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: Mekhi Blackmon looks like a pretty good 3rd rounder from 2023. Before that, Danielle Hunter.

But remember it was Howie Roseman who took Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson. I think he took that personally because they've drafted really well since then.

I thought Hunter was 4th round. But yes, all GMs have blind spots. Spielman was QB and o-Line. Denny Green was D-line. Has Roseman given Hurts much help at the WR position thru the draft?

Canthony · 01-27-2025, 01:40 PM

(01-27-2025, 01:27 PM)greediron Wrote: I thought Hunter was 4th round. But yes, all GMs have blind spots. Spielman was QB and o-Line. Denny Green was D-line. Has Roseman given Hurts much help at the WR position thru the draft?

Davonta Smith has worked out for them at WR.

greediron · 01-27-2025, 02:03 PM

(01-27-2025, 01:40 PM)Canthony Wrote: Davonta Smith has worked out for them at WR.

Worked out would be a good description. Not bad, nothing worth getting excited about.

pattersaur · (This post was last modified: 01-27-2025, 04:23 PM by pattersaur.)

Big time Stockton/Malone Utah Jazz feels for the Bills right now.

purplefaithful · (This post was last modified: 01-27-2025, 02:51 PM by purplefaithful.)

(01-27-2025, 11:56 AM)AGRforever Wrote: Talk about heartbreak. You draft a QB as good as Josh Allen is only to go against Pat Mahomes in repeat appearances at the championship game and just can't get over the hump.

JJM is going to need to be world class if we're going to beat teams like Detroit and Philadelphia in the coming years.

Allen doesnt have enough weapons imo...Plus they criminally under-utilized James Cook yesterday, one of their best weapons.

He wasn't even on the field their last drive.

No sympathy from me.