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10-07-2024, 06:03 PM
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I know the dude got hurt, needs to put on some strength...
Ive seen him looking to be getting some pressures and dropping back into coverages at times.
I hope he can pick it up the remainder of the season. I had higher (maybe unrealistic) hopes
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(10-07-2024, 06:03 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: I know the dude got hurt, needs to put on some strength...
Ive seen him looking to be getting some pressures and dropping back into coverages at times.
I hope he can pick it up the remainder of the season. I had higher (maybe unrealistic) hopes
4 solo tackles
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1 sack
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Remember he won’t turn 22 until February. He’s in a good spot but doesn’t have his man muscles yet.
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I'm fine if they save Turner a bit. Van Ginkel and Greenard should be ahead of him with the way they are playing and Patrick Jones has been great as a rotational rusher. Plus we don't want Turner wearing out with the grind of a longer NFL season compared to college. Let him continue to develop so he's ready to rock for the latter half of the season and playoffs.
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I mean, who do you want to take off the field?
Like I hope he gets more production at some point, but it's hard to be disappointed when the other guys are playing well.
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10-07-2024, 09:28 PM
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I was blown away with a play he made yesterday where he came way from the outside and got to the RB in the backfield on a big play, didn't know he was that lightning quick, think with that kind of speed and athleticism we are going to see him progressively contribute more as the year goes on.
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Turner is adjusting to the NFL, he also doesn't have his NFL body yet. Good year to use him situationally and then make him a full time starter in 2025. Young guy....a month younger than McCarthy.
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He hasn't had the kind of impact Micah Parsons had early on, but I think it's important to remember that he's playing in a Flores system, where he's been asked to play a variety of roles. They're likely bringing him along slowly simply because they can. Greenard, Gink and Jones have been terrific. I think Turner will start to have more impact later in the season and next year.
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Kevin O'Connell praises Vikings rookie Dallas Turner amid shrinking role
"He's gonna be an absolute monster for us," KOC said of the 21-year-old.
One of the Vikings' first-round picks this year, injured quarterback J.J. McCarthy, watched Sunday's game against the Lions from the home sideline. Their other first-round pick spent most of his afternoon doing the same thing.
Outside linebacker Dallas Turner, the No. 17 overall pick in this year's draft, played a season-low four defensive snaps in the loss against Detroit. His main role, as was the case over the previous couple weeks, was on special teams, where he played 20 snaps.
Turner played 35 snaps on defense and notched his first career sack in the Vikings' season opener against the Giants. But since returning from a one-week injury absence, he's played 28 snaps over the last three games combined. Instead of expanding over the course of his rookie season, Turner's role is getting smaller and smaller.
Asked about that dynamic on Monday, head coach Kevin O'Connell gave a strong defense of the Vikings' 21-year-old rookie out of Alabama.
"Yeah, he's working through it," O'Connell said. "He's a young player in a defense where the roles and responsibilities sometimes in-game can adjust based on what we're seeing. I think we've got a really deep outside linebacker room with Gink (Andrew Van Ginkel) and (Jonathan) Greenard, Pat Jones, and then Haddy (Jihad Ward) has got his role. We're going to continue to see Dallas have an impact. It may be a growing thing as we go here, but trust me, I've got a ton of confidence in Dallas. He's growing within a pretty high-level IQ defense."
Those two contextual factors — the players he's behind on the depth chart and the complexity of the team's scheme — help explain why Turner isn't playing much on a team that's fully in win-now mode.
Greenard and Van Ginkel are two of the better OLBs in the league, and Jones has thrived in a rotational role behind them this season. Those three are tied for the team lead with five sacks apiece. And in Flores' defense, there's a lot more than just rushing the passer off the edge that goes into playing the OLB position.
That doesn't mean it isn't slightly concerning to see Turner's role shrinking, but it does make it a bit more understandable. O'Connell is still quite confident in his long-term outlook.
"I think he's an incredible fit in our defense, not only in the present but in the future as well," he said. "He's gonna be an absolute monster for us. But sometimes, the way the game flow goes, there might be — what personnel are they using and how do we wanna match that personnel, things like that. ... I think DT's growing every single day. I'm more excited about him now than I was even when we drafted him."
Source: Sports Illustrated
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Turner's gonna be fine, but he did get sucked inside the traffic on that first long run by Gibbs. I think if the starters weren't playing so well we'd be seeing a lot more of Turner, sacks, mistakes and all.
Danielle Hunter started one game as a rookie. John Randle didn't start any and had 1 sack his rookie season. Chris Doleman had a half a sack his rookie season.
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10-22-2024, 10:31 AM
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I thought Turner would be like Parson. Put him in different positions along the D-line and tell him to go get the ball. Guess Flo D is more like chess then checkers
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