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I actually think Williams, Maye, Penix, Daniels and McCarthy will be gone the first 5 or 6 picks. Harrison Jr and maybe an edge or OT slide in, but we will not be getting any of those 5 without a huge cost.
Kirk is likely out as we chose to let him get to FA. Going to be very interesting and tenure defining how Kwesi handles this.
Trade for Fields?, Huntley Howell, Daniel Jones? Bridge with Passtronaut or some other castoff?
Rubber is sure gonna meet the road with Kwesi and team cause either he goes and gets his guy and gives away this and next years draft; Rolls the dice on Nix or the same ilk; Or he goes to a bridge dude that will likely struggle nearly as much as Mullens.
I think out of all these options i would try to get Howell.
The top 3, Williams, Maye and Daniels will go 1, 2 3. I like Penix but he's certainly got his issues which pushes him down the board. McCarthy hasn't declared yet that I know of and is raw. You only draft McCarthy if you can sit him for a year or 2. Nix has flashes, but then has times where you're left shaking your head. I can't believe we'd trade up for any of Penix, McCarthy or Nix.
I wonder where Will Levis would slot with this bunch— both as a prospect and as the player we’ve seen.
I think I’d put JJM as QB3 or 4 as of this moment. But that could change as soon as tonight. Wild one game can mean that much but I go back to watchig Stroud vs Georgia last year and being in awe. Two guys have the chance to really affect their stock tonight. Should be fun and hopefully it’s a good game. I don’t care who wins.
Nope, no way. Never happen. There's the top 3 in tier one and then a step down.
You gotta have a willing trade partner and the conviction to move-up for someone.
Last year they had the conviction, but couldn't find a dance partner.
They may have a shot at the #4 or #5 slot (Zona, Chargers), I dont see any of the top 3 willing to move out of spot as they are as qb needy (or more) than the Vikings.
Where's the next Teddy? that's the type the Vikings go for.
I think you're seeing this through a purple lens. No doubt, three of those QBs could go early, but there are a few pretty good players in this draft who don't play QB. For example, most big boards have WR Marvin Harrison Jr. as the top prospect in this class. There are a couple other WRs and a couple tackles who will figure in as well.
Quote: @pattersaur said:
I wonder where Will Levis would slot with this bunch— both as a prospect and as the player we’ve seen.
I think I’d put JJM as QB3 or 4 as of this moment. But that could change as soon as tonight. Wild one game can mean that much but I go back to watchig Stroud vs Georgia last year and being in awe. Two guys have the chance to really affect their stock tonight. Should be fun and hopefully it’s a good game. I don’t care who wins.
Agree.
I think tonight we will see a contrast in QB's similar to the Stroud/Bryce Young. I see the potential for Penix to look like Stroud and McCarthy to look like a good college game manager. No idea which "team" will win but I think we will see a clear winner in terms of NFL QB.
Quote: @Bullazin said:
I actually think Williams, Maye, Penix, Daniels and McCarthy will be gone the first 5 or 6 picks. Harrison Jr and maybe an edge or OT slide in, but we will not be getting any of those 5 without a huge cost.
Kirk is likely out as we chose to let him get to FA. Going to be very interesting and tenure defining how Kwesi handles this.
Trade for Fields?, Huntley Howell, Daniel Jones? Bridge with Passtronaut or some other castoff?
Rubber is sure gonna meet the road with Kwesi and team cause either he goes and gets his guy and gives away this and next years draft; Rolls the dice on Nix or the same ilk; Or he goes to a bridge dude that will likely struggle nearly as much as Mullens.
I think out of all these options i would try to get Howell.
I think Williams, Maye and Daniels go Top 5. There is a sweet spot from picks 4 - 7 with teams that might not be looking at QB with other needs. So if Daniels is there at 4 do we have the conviction to make the move? I hope we do, I like Daniels.
If we just stay at 11 we might have Penix, Nix and JJ there for us. I am not really a JJ fan, I guess we will see more tonight? I think I lean Nix at 11 over Penix only because of his lack of injury history and his more college games played (because of injury  . Plus Nix's completion % this past season was a college high of almost 78% with a 9.5 avg yards per pass..wow! I know the critics say he has a much lower big play completion percentage then some others but when you put up the stats above does it matter? Maybe becuase of his accuracy and high yards per completion he didn't need to throw 40 yard bombs as often, maybe?
I would strongly look at Daniels and a move up. Then Nix and then Penix at this point.
Here are some numbers I put together for all to see/use. I strongly consider the progression from junior year to senior year and all three have that but Daniels dual threat is off the charts and I like the jump Nix made this season.
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Pct |
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TD |
Int |
Rtg |
Att |
Yds |
Avg |
TD |
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Penix |
Washington Huskies |
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6'3 |
2022 |
13 |
13 |
11–2 |
362 |
554 |
65.3 |
4,641 |
8.4 |
31 |
8 |
151.3 |
35 |
92 |
2.6 |
4 |
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213 |
2023 |
14 |
14 |
14–0 |
336 |
504 |
66.7 |
4,648 |
9.2 |
35 |
9 |
163.5 |
32 |
13 |
0.4 |
3 |
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age 23 |
Career |
47 |
44 |
37–7 |
1,040 |
1,634 |
63.6 |
13,486 |
8.3 |
95 |
32 |
148.2 |
131 |
270 |
2.1 |
13 |
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Nix |
Oregon Ducks |
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6'2 |
2022 |
13 |
13 |
10–3 |
294 |
409 |
71.9 |
3,593 |
8.8 |
29 |
7 |
165.7 |
89 |
510 |
5.7 |
14 |
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217 |
2023 |
14 |
14 |
12–2 |
364 |
470 |
77.5* |
4,508 |
9.5 |
45 |
3 |
186.2 |
53 |
228 |
4.3 |
6 |
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age 23 |
Career |
61* |
61* |
43–18 |
1,286 |
1,936 |
66.5 |
15,352 |
7.9 |
108 |
26 |
148.4 |
404 |
1,607 |
4 |
38 |
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Daniels |
LSU Tigers |
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6'4 |
2022 |
14 |
14 |
10–4 |
266 |
388 |
68.6 |
2,913 |
7.5 |
17 |
3 |
144.5 |
186 |
885 |
4.8 |
11 |
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210 |
2023 |
12 |
12 |
9–3 |
236 |
327 |
72.2 |
3,812 |
11.7 |
40 |
4 |
208 |
135 |
1,134 |
8.4 |
10 |
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age 23 |
Career |
55 |
55 |
37–18 |
953 |
1,438 |
66.3 |
12,749 |
8.9 |
89 |
20 |
158.4 |
617 |
3,307 |
5.4 |
34 |
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
I think you're seeing this through a purple lens. No doubt, three of those QBs could go early, but there are a few pretty good players in this draft who don't play QB. For example, most big boards have WR Marvin Harrison Jr. as the top prospect in this class. There are a couple other WRs and a couple tackles who will figure in as well.
watch Washington's Rome Adunze tonight, if he goes off like he can, he could certainly push his name into that conversation, kid is fearless and tough as hell.
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