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[purplefaithful]

Anyone else here sick of Yellowstone yet?

I am trying to watch the latest season...

[Guest]

Nope.  We're big fans, but then again, look where I live.  The Trophy Wife and I were extras for Episode 1, Season 4 (it was supposedly in an Indian Casino...it was shot in an Indian Casino on the Salish Reservation north of Missoula).  
I will tell you honestly, it was hard for me to get into with season 1.  Then we binge watched 4-5 episodes to wrap it up and I was hooked.  What struck me over time is that many of the underlying themes were very real in Montana.  What isn't real and used for the drama, is so many killings and of course nobody really has a Train Station...or do they?
Some of the underlying themes that are real:

• Conflicts between developers, ranchers and native tribes...definitely.
• Outside massive development money coming in.
• Tree huggers protesting in Bozeman or Missoula.
• Women disappearing / being killed on the Rez all too frequently.
• Meth heads and other druggies
• Impacts of wolves and the National Parks.
• Bison carrying brucellosis and not mixing with cattle (a BIG issue among cattlemen)
• Skinheads / Nazi sympathizers
• Californians moving into Montana and blocking access to moving cattle to pastures
• Buckle Bunnies and cowboys and rodeo

I could go on-and-on...but these are some of the storylines that I recall quickly that are for real. 
Three memorable "Montana-ish" scenes that I recall...one, when the Bunkhouse Boys got into a fight in a town bar, and the boys went back, loaded up a bunch of bulls and let 'em loose in the bar...WHAT FUN!!!
Two...the whole crew had to ride up a long way to gather a horse herd and they ran 'em down the hill en masse...hollerin' and hoopin'.  You could really tell who knew how to ride....I just remember the grins at the bottom and one of the guys said to John Dutton (Kevin Costner)..."that was so much fun, we ought to take those horses back up there and do it again!"  
And Three, when John Dutton was trying to get away from everyone/everything by going up to summer cow camp...and he kept walking uphill until he couldn't get a cell signal...and he told the guys "move my camp to this spot".  So true.

I also notice that the CBS version airing now is a lot different than the original Paramount Plus episodes.  Storyline is still there, but very much watered down.  Not nearly enough F**ks given.

[Guest]

Women disappearing, being killed on native lands is a huge issue here in MN too. 

So f'ing sad. 

[Guest]

@purplefaithful said:
Women disappearing, being killed on native lands is a huge issue here in MN too. 

So f'ing sad. 

Also here in ND…it’s beyond evil

[Guest]

@prairieghost said:

@purplefaithful said:
Women disappearing, being killed on native lands is a huge issue here in MN too. 

So f'ing sad. 

Also here in ND…it’s beyond evil

Maybe its time for the tribes to admit thay can't handle their own business and disband their reservations,   state and local law enforcement really have their hands tied on the res,  and a lot of
 the time they can get any cooperation when they are involved.

I love my native friends,  but here in SD the tribal governments are failing their people and the federal efforts are just destroying a once proud people and the results are a lazy, chemically dependent, society that in no way resembles their great predecessors. 

So very sad.

[Guest]

@JimmyinSD said:

@prairieghost said:

@purplefaithful said:
Women disappearing, being killed on native lands is a huge issue here in MN too. 

So f'ing sad. 

Also here in ND…it’s beyond evil

Maybe its time for the tribes to admit thay can't handle their own business and disband their reservations,   state and local law enforcement really have their hands tied on the res,  and a lot of
 the time they can get any cooperation when they are involved.

I love my native friends,  but here in SD the tribal governments are failing their people and the federal efforts are just destroying a once proud people and the results are a lazy, chemically dependent, society that in no way resembles their great predecessors. 

When I put my 1-1/2 cents into this discussion I was coming more from a place of lamenting evil crimes towards women (and yes, in this case specifically Native women). This is a truly evil and desperate problem that bleeds through any government agency’s purview. Rather than looking at it as a “Native women” problem, it should properly be viewed as a crimes against women as a whole, of any race, culture or ethnicity. In fact, let’s drop race out of the discussion entirely except only for the relevance of providing vital descriptors. While I won’t argue the red tape that must be untangled between tribal and federal authority, I will put forth that too often missing Native women aren’t brought into the spotlight unless there happens to be a unique qualifier to bring attention to their case….and that needs to change.

[Guest]

I can't. But many series that I like suffer each year they move forward. The storylines become ridiculous and take you out of the experience. Yellowstone is no exception. 

[Guest]

@prairieghost said:

@JimmyinSD said:

@prairieghost said:

@purplefaithful said:
Women disappearing, being killed on native lands is a huge issue here in MN too. 

So f'ing sad. 

Also here in ND…it’s beyond evil

Maybe its time for the tribes to admit thay can't handle their own business and disband their reservations,   state and local law enforcement really have their hands tied on the res,  and a lot of
 the time they can get any cooperation when they are involved.

I love my native friends,  but here in SD the tribal governments are failing their people and the federal efforts are just destroying a once proud people and the results are a lazy, chemically dependent, society that in no way resembles their great predecessors. 

When I put my 1-1/2 cents into this discussion I was coming more from a place of lamenting evil crimes towards women (and yes, in this case specifically Native women). This is a truly evil and desperate problem that bleeds through any government agency’s purview. Rather than looking at it as a “Native women” problem, it should properly be viewed as a crimes against women as a whole, of any race, culture or ethnicity. In fact, let’s drop race out of the discussion entirely except only for the relevance of providing vital descriptors. While I won’t argue the red tape that must be untangled between tribal and federal authority, I will put forth that too often missing Native women aren’t brought into the spotlight unless there happens to be a unique qualifier to bring attention to their case….and that needs to change.

I think more needs to be done to stop the crime, the criminals,, and the culture,  not just raise awareness to it.  Our reservations have been over run by gangs being led by the drug cartels,  until we can get serious law enforcement activities going on the reservations this isnt going to get any better,  awareness or not.

[Guest]

I tried watching it but couldn't stand it.  I agree with Montana Tom on the real issues it brings up, but it is so glamorized, such a hollywood depiction of it all.  The porn effect, the killings, and Costner were just too much to make it worth my time.