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I know that I live in a rural area, and by my own admission I avoid a lot of the MSM news ( helps maintain sanity IMO ) but as I try and follow the news out of the middle east, I hear about all the anti Israel and anti Jew hate and rhetoric being spewn by college kids and other progressives, groups like black lives matter, and so on here in America. Where did this all come from? Has this been a thing all along and it just took a horrific event to bring it to the forefront? I dont see many followers of Islam or Jewish principals here in the rural plains, couldnt even tell you where the closest mosque or synagogue is. I know there are Jewish and Muslim people around, but its not really a thing around here.
What the hell is going on outside my bubble that has grown to the level of public support for killing Jews.... think about that for a second, people that are supporting Hamas's terrorist assault on Israel are essentially supporting the actions of Hitler, and for the most part.... very little outcry from most of America that I hear. ( sorry, calls for peace ring hollow after the opening salvo by Hamas ) Why is this? Why arent all Americans condemning these statements and acts? Have we fallen that far as a society that we cant unite to condemn terrorist acts on innocent women and children? What am I not getting here?
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking....are you asking why some people hate Jews? Why there is anti-Semitism? This isn't a Muslim thing really, but more about Palestinian Arabs....although Hamas is an Islamic terrorist group.
If you're wondering about this specific situation, this is a good quick read to get you up to speed on the Israel-Gaza War: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44124396
If you're asking why there's anti-Semitism, it started LONG before this. That's a much broader discussion and goes back to before the Bible. I guess I'm not reading anything about public support 'for killing Jews'? Again, not entirely sure what your question is.
It's little do with religion for young people. More about power dynamics of oppressors vs the oppressed. They side with they oppressed all the time in a very simplistic black and white thinking which is why no one should take them serious. The loudest voices are a very small percentage of the left and should be acknowledged for existing and ultimately ignored.
Lastly, there is a long history of being young and stupid, promoting radical ideas on campus. Which is acceptable, fine, because universities SHOULD BE the place for the exchange of ideas. Unfortunately it has been moving to a one sided conversation for the last 10 years
Historically this has been the case and will continue to be until they grow up and stop seeing the world black/white, good/bad, predators/prey
Quote: @StickyBun said:
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking....are you asking why some people hate Jews? Why there is anti-Semitism? This isn't a Muslim thing, but more about Palestinian Arabs.
If you're wondering about this specific situation, this is a good quick read to get you up to speed on the Israel-Gaza War: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44124396
If you're asking why there's anti-Semitism, it started LONG before this. That's a much broader discussion and goes back to before the Bible. I guess I'm not reading anything about public support 'for killing Jews'? Again, not entirely sure what your question is.
College campuses are seeing pro hamas protests. Anti Semitic comments, graffiti etc, I know its always been a thing, but its never been as popular and mainstream as it currently is in my lifetime. You have to have seen the headlines in the last couple weeks about all the Harvard and other Ivy leagues student groups signing petitions supporting Hamas, and other things praising and supporting the terror attacks on Israel?
I am sure the bias undertones have always been there, but its now a popular thing it seems to come out against Israel. I dont understand the lack of compassion in our country considering the heinous and cowardly actions that took place. Soldiers fighting soldiers is war, soldiers killing innocent civilians simply because of skin color or religion is genocide and very much like what Hitler was doing 80 years ago.
I am just not understanding the mentality of that segment of our population and what they think its going to lead to.
Hamas killed 1400 people. Israel in turn has leveled one of the most densely populated places on Earth. So I get it.
I also understand that young people today hate everything that has to do with religion and to be honest….the religious have given them plenty of reasons.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking....are you asking why some people hate Jews? Why there is anti-Semitism? This isn't a Muslim thing, but more about Palestinian Arabs.
If you're wondering about this specific situation, this is a good quick read to get you up to speed on the Israel-Gaza War: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44124396
If you're asking why there's anti-Semitism, it started LONG before this. That's a much broader discussion and goes back to before the Bible. I guess I'm not reading anything about public support 'for killing Jews'? Again, not entirely sure what your question is.
College campuses are seeing pro hamas protests. Anti Semitic comments, graffiti etc, I know its always been a thing, but its never been as popular and mainstream as it currently is in my lifetime. You have to have seen the headlines in the last couple weeks about all the Harvard and other Ivy leagues student groups signing petitions supporting Hamas, and other things praising and supporting the terror attacks on Israel?
I am sure the bias undertones have always been there, but its now a popular thing it seems to come out against Israel. I dont understand the lack of compassion in our country considering the heinous and cowardly actions that took place. Soldiers fighting soldiers is war, soldiers killing innocent civilians simply because of skin color or religion is genocide and very much like what Hitler was doing 80 years ago.
I am just not understanding the mentality of that segment of our population and what they think its going to lead to.
I gotcha now, thanks for clarifying. Well, I can tell you there's sympathy for the Palestinians from some if you look at what they've been subjected to since Israel came to be. This is where its coming from. Israelis and especially Benjamin Netanyahu are far from being angels. This sympathy, for some reason, seems to slide to Hamas....I think that's mostly an ignorance factor from college kids that are clueless. But what else is new there? There's been some college protests over the last 60 years that are real head scratchers.
Quote: @Skodin said:
It's little do with religion for young people. More about power dynamics of oppressors vs the oppressed. They side with they oppressed all the time in a very simplistic black and white thinking which is why no one should take them serious. The loudest voices are a very small percentage of the left and should be acknowledged for existing and ultimately ignored.
Lastly, there is a long history of being young and stupid, promoting radical ideas on campus. Which is acceptable, fine, because universities SHOULD BE the place for the exchange of ideas. Unfortunately it has been moving to a one sided conversation for the last 10 years
Historically this has been the case and will continue to be until they grow up and stop seeing the world black/white, good/bad, predators/prey
I expect this kind of rhetoric from places like Berkeley or other historically liberal schools, but places that are typically more esteemed and image conscious like the IVY league schools, I was amazed to hear they were being as openly supportive of the pro hamas shit. Hell we have European countries banning that type of noise and public support and protests, and yet here in America we have the colleges that historically produce our future leaders of this nation openly supporting genocidal terrorists. I just think we've become a place I hardly recognize when watching the news. Theres a terrible narrative out there.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking....are you asking why some people hate Jews? Why there is anti-Semitism? This isn't a Muslim thing, but more about Palestinian Arabs.
If you're wondering about this specific situation, this is a good quick read to get you up to speed on the Israel-Gaza War: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44124396
If you're asking why there's anti-Semitism, it started LONG before this. That's a much broader discussion and goes back to before the Bible. I guess I'm not reading anything about public support 'for killing Jews'? Again, not entirely sure what your question is.
College campuses are seeing pro hamas protests. Anti Semitic comments, graffiti etc, I know its always been a thing, but its never been as popular and mainstream as it currently is in my lifetime. You have to have seen the headlines in the last couple weeks about all the Harvard and other Ivy leagues student groups signing petitions supporting Hamas, and other things praising and supporting the terror attacks on Israel?
I am sure the bias undertones have always been there, but its now a popular thing it seems to come out against Israel. I dont understand the lack of compassion in our country considering the heinous and cowardly actions that took place. Soldiers fighting soldiers is war, soldiers killing innocent civilians simply because of skin color or religion is genocide and very much like what Hitler was doing 80 years ago.
I am just not understanding the mentality of that segment of our population and what they think its going to lead to.
I gotcha now, thanks for clarifying. Well, I can tell you there's sympathy for the Palestinians from some if you look at what they've been subjected to since Israel came to be. This is where its coming from. Israelis and especially Benjamin Netanyahu are far from being angels. This sympathy, for some reason, seems to slide to Hamas....I think that's mostly an ignorance factor from college kids that are clueless. But what else is new there? There's been some college protests over the last 60 years that are real head scratchers.
I dobt understand though why nobody is able to separate Hamas from Palestinians, Hamas may have Palestinian members, but they aren't fighting to free Palestinians, hell Isreal left the Gaza Strip about 20 years ago. 20% of Israel's population is Muslim, there are no Israelis in Gaza, so this antiquated notion of modern day Israeli suppression of the Palestinians is false from what I can find, but whoever is feeding these college kids and other organizations their information allowing this narrative to feed the hatred ( as well as violence) towards Jewish people in America should be held accountable.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking....are you asking why some people hate Jews? Why there is anti-Semitism? This isn't a Muslim thing, but more about Palestinian Arabs.
If you're wondering about this specific situation, this is a good quick read to get you up to speed on the Israel-Gaza War: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44124396
If you're asking why there's anti-Semitism, it started LONG before this. That's a much broader discussion and goes back to before the Bible. I guess I'm not reading anything about public support 'for killing Jews'? Again, not entirely sure what your question is.
College campuses are seeing pro hamas protests. Anti Semitic comments, graffiti etc, I know its always been a thing, but its never been as popular and mainstream as it currently is in my lifetime. You have to have seen the headlines in the last couple weeks about all the Harvard and other Ivy leagues student groups signing petitions supporting Hamas, and other things praising and supporting the terror attacks on Israel?
I am sure the bias undertones have always been there, but its now a popular thing it seems to come out against Israel. I dont understand the lack of compassion in our country considering the heinous and cowardly actions that took place. Soldiers fighting soldiers is war, soldiers killing innocent civilians simply because of skin color or religion is genocide and very much like what Hitler was doing 80 years ago.
I am just not understanding the mentality of that segment of our population and what they think its going to lead to.
I gotcha now, thanks for clarifying. Well, I can tell you there's sympathy for the Palestinians from some if you look at what they've been subjected to since Israel came to be. This is where its coming from. Israelis and especially Benjamin Netanyahu are far from being angels. This sympathy, for some reason, seems to slide to Hamas....I think that's mostly an ignorance factor from college kids that are clueless. But what else is new there? There's been some college protests over the last 60 years that are real head scratchers.
I dobt understand though why nobody is able to separate Hamas from Palestinians, Hamas may have Palestinian members, but they aren't fighting to free Palestinians, hell Isreal left the Gaza Strip about 20 years ago. 20% of Israel's population is Muslim, there are no Israelis in Gaza, so this antiquated notion of modern day Israeli suppression of the Palestinians is false from what I can find, but whoever is feeding these college kids and other organizations their information allowing this narrative to feed the hatred ( as well as violence) towards Jewish people in America should be held accountable. Its not entirely false. This is another huge issue where Israel gets worldwide condemnation, expansion of settlements:
https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/11/1104792
"The UN has repeatedly stated Israeli settlements in occupied Palestinian territory are a flagrant violation under international law, the rights experts recalled.
“As well, the Israeli settlements are a presumptive war crime under the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC), and should be treated as such by the international community,” they added."
Hamas wasn't created in a vacuum.
It's...well, the roots of the situation go back, as stated above, millenia.
That region is all about tearing itself apart. History kinda shows this.
The entirety of the Palestine (which may or may not have any basis in reality)/Gaza situation is horrid, because all "sides" involved remember threats, violence, and centuries of the most vicious acts of the human race.
Israel is a country that is literally surrounded by others that have threatened to destroy it at various points, though Egypt and Jordan achieved normalized diplomatic status after a LOT of vicious incidents. Lebanon and Syria, propped up by eternal s**theads Iran, refuse to learn this lesson. Hamas and Hezbollah have both shown full willingness to murder Israelis en masse, and both have (sadly) been elected as political entities by the Palestinians.
Hence, their leadership doesn't want peaceful co-existence with Israel, that's a fluffy fever dream exposed as BS many times over.
On the other hand, Netanyahu is a vicious old power monger, the equivalent of a cold war paranoid, an untrustable s**thead that stonewalls any questions about settlements, crackdowns, Gaza brutality, etc with "...will do whatever is required to safeguard the Israeli people". He creates as many problems as he pretends to solve, and has recently worked to suspend his country's courts' powers to offer any resistance to him.
He certainly doesn't believe in any two-state solution, either.
The real horror show in all of this is...the civilians constantly caught in the middle. Hamas and Hezbollah celebrate every single gutless murder they accomplish, truly two of the most horrid, s**t organizations on Earth. Meanwhile, the "open air prison" of Gaza...a brutal limbo for people held by two vicious PR campaigns, with no solution offered by anyone...will continue to be a nightmare until something important changes.
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