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Vikings and Theilen talking...
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INDIANAPOLIS – Coach Kevin O'Connell said he envisions a Vikings offense that can further ascend with Adam Thielen as a contributor. Whether the veteran receiver thinks that's enough, and whether a financial gap can be bridged, remains to be seen.
Thielen's contract — which commands the team's highest 2023 cap hit for a non-quarterback player at nearly $20 million — is an ongoing discussion with the Vikings, as is Thielen's role in a passing attack that was led by receiver Justin Jefferson and tight end T.J. Hockenson at year's end.
"When you have the receiver that leads the league in yards and receptions," O'Connell said this week at the NFL scouting combine, "and have three other guys with 60-plus [catches], you feel really strong about that group. And I still think that there's places to go where we can build upon it even more. Adam is one of those leaders that I speak of; his teammates voted him as a captain.
"We're going to continue to take a look at what's the best route to go," he added. "There's a conversation to be had to really see what that looks like: playing time and roles and responsibilities. So that, regardless, all of our players feel like … it's a fair compensation for them. But we've got the kind of players where they care a lot about their role and their responsibilities and how they help us win, and you want those things to match up and for them to feel as good about it as we do. We'll have those conversations and dialogue and kind of see where it goes."
A solution with Thielen, whether via a new deal, a trade or release, will be the first domino for a Vikings receiving corps that could seek a jolt behind Jefferson. The Vikings will likely make multiple moves to create salary cap space before the March 15 open to free agency; the hard deadline with Thielen is March 17, when his $11.8 million base salary becomes guaranteed.
Thielen, the Detroit Lakes and Mankato product, said he was uncertain whether he would stay with the Vikings for an 11th season during a series of interviews last month for Super Bowl week. Thielen, who had 70 catches for 716 yards and six touchdowns last season, wanted to be a bigger part of the game plans, according to a source.
Thielen said as much on ESPN's "First Take" last month, when sharing that he wants to "help a team and show them that I can play at a high level."
"Will that be in Minnesota? I don't know," Thielen said. "I hope so. I hope to retire a Minnesota Viking."
https://www.startribune.com/vikings-adam-thielen-talking-through-contract-and-role-with-cap-decisions-looming/600256272/
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The Vikings relied heavily on three receivers during O'Connell's first season. 
Jefferson, Thielen and K.J. Osborn were rarely given a breather due to the Vikings' lack of depth. Receiver Jalen Reagor is under contract for another year after uneven returns on offense and special teams. Bisi Johnson, who suffered a second torn knee ligament last summer, is a pending free agent.
A true No. 1 receiver like Jefferson allows the Vikings to search for complements.
"We're always looking for diverse skill sets," O'Connell said, "that can allow you to just get creative with how you attack people over the course of a full season."
NFL Media draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah, a former NFL scout, said this draft class might lack the Ja'Marr Chase or Jefferson-level star, but he projected five first-round receivers between Southern California's Jordan Addison, Ohio State's Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Texas Christian's Quentin Johnston, Boston College's Zay Flowers, and Tennessee's Jalin Hyatt. North Carolina's Josh Downs is another quick and fast talent who could be gone by the time the Vikings make a second pick, currently slated at 87th overall in the third round.
Jeremiah projected the Vikings to go defense with the 23rd-overall pick. Minnesota's second-round pick rests in Detroit, from where the Vikings acquired Hockenson.
Oklahoma's Marvin Mims Jr., a burner who averaged 19.5 yards per catch in college, and Louisiana State's Kayshon Boutte, an inconsistent but talented threat with the ball, are among the projected mid-round options.
https://www.startribune.com/vikings-adam-thielen-talking-through-contract-and-role-with-cap-decisions-looming/600256272/
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Adam Thielen could make intriguing addition for KC ChiefsThe Kansas City Chiefs could make Adam Thielen the sort of addition that JuJu Smith-Schuster was this season.

As of right now, Adam Thielen isn’t available, but that’s technically true of a lot of players who will be seeking employment in a matter of weeks. From the outside looking in, it seems only a matter of time until the Minnesota Vikings release the popular wide receiver to recoup some much-needed cap space heading into a new league year.
When it comes to the Kansas City Chiefs, Thielen is an intriguing name to bring up as a potential free agent signing, a talented wide receiver whose best days are behind him yet still has something left in the tank. Given several parameters on both sides—for both player and team—it feels like the sort of short-term relationship that could work for all parties involved.
Consider this: the Vikings already employ the best young wide receiver in the game in Justin Jefferson and they’re in the hole by over $23 million at this point, per Spotrac. The idea of cutting Thielen is nothing new for Vikings fans, as the team could save a quick $6.4 million with the decision, and it looks like an even more obvious choice when you acknowledge that Thielen isn’t quite the game-breaking target that he used to be.
Thielen hasn’t made a Pro Bowl since 2018—Patrick Mahomes’ first season in the league—so those days of dominance are behind him, but he’s remained a very steady receiver for Minnesota in the years since then. Last year, Thielen had 70 catches for 716 yards and 6 touchdowns and showed he can still be reliable by playing in all 17 games for the Vikings. The truth is that Thielen can also still be a menace in the red zone, as illustrated by his 30 touchdowns in the last three years—not bad for post-prime numbers—and Mahomes is the sort of statistical inflator that will make his numbers look even better.
For the Chiefs, Thielen would give them a productive veteran who could surprise given a change of scenery alongside a lot of returning players with variables like Skyy Moore (who rarely played), Kadarius Toney (who is often injured), and Marquez Valdes-Scantling (who can be inconsistent). The Chiefs could allow Smith-Schuster to walk toward a greater payday (or play hardball and hold firm knowing they have another option) and keep a proven productive player around hungry for a championship.
The arrangement would only likely last a single season, but the idea of bringing Thielen into K.C. would be a nice gain for everyone. It would also allow the Chiefs to draft another player this year while not plugging him in immediately. The cost should be fair, the drive for the player will be high, and the offense can remain as deep and dangerous as ever.


https://arrowheadaddict.com/2023/03/05/adam-thielen-possible-intriguing-addition-kc-chiefs/
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No position's cliff is more steep than WR. And very few of them even see it until they're starting up at it.

Hopefully Thielen is smarter than that. Smart enough to know the only way he can keep his family in Minnesota is by taking a massive pay cut. 
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I love Thielen, his story, and what he has meant to the organization...but it's time to move on. We need speed at the position and Thielen's injuries and age have taken a toll on him. If he wants to come back on a hugely reduced salary as the 3rd or 4th guy on the depth chart, great, but I don't think that will be the case. 
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
No position's cliff is more steep than WR. And very few of them even see it until they're starting up at it.

Hopefully Thielen is smarter than that. Smart enough to know the only way he can keep his family in Minnesota is by taking a massive pay cut. 
He doesn't care about keeping his family in Minnesota. He moved them out several years ago. His wife and kids live outside of Orlando when the kids are in school. They do spend some time during the summer in MN.
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Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@MaroonBells said:
No position's cliff is more steep than WR. And very few of them even see it until they're starting up at it.

Hopefully Thielen is smarter than that. Smart enough to know the only way he can keep his family in Minnesota is by taking a massive pay cut. 
He doesn't care about keeping his family in Minnesota. He moved them out several years ago. His wife and kids live outside of Orlando when the kids are in school. They do spend some time during the summer in MN.
Adam is a big golfer and he's gets a raise with no income tax in Florida. 
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Quote: @StickyBun said:
@bigbone62 said:
@MaroonBells said:
No position's cliff is more steep than WR. And very few of them even see it until they're starting up at it.

Hopefully Thielen is smarter than that. Smart enough to know the only way he can keep his family in Minnesota is by taking a massive pay cut. 
He doesn't care about keeping his family in Minnesota. He moved them out several years ago. His wife and kids live outside of Orlando when the kids are in school. They do spend some time during the summer in MN.
Adam is a big golfer and he's gets a raise with no income tax in Florida. 
Correct, His  house is on a golf course down there. 
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#9
Or he goes to KC and gets a shot at a SB.
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#10
Officially released. Best of luck AT
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