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[StickyBun]

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Glad to know Cousins has no more excuses since the problems
are all gone.

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@"medaille" said:
Glad to know Cousins has no more excuses since the problems
are all gone.

Yep, that's what those stats are: excuses. Good to know fans are going to fan, regardless.

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I mean, not only Cousins but the significant amount of offensive talent we have had.

Since 2017 we have had a top 3 WR duo every year and a top 5 RB every year (outside of 17')

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@"Skodin" said:
I mean, not only Cousins but the significant amount of offensive talent we have had.

Since 2017 we have had a top 3 WR duo every year and a top 5 RB every year (outside of 17')

I think KOC is got Cousins playing some safety this year in camp, could be the first two-way player in recent NFL memory. Only way to redeem himself. 

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@"StickyBun" said:

@"medaille" said:
Glad to know Cousins has no more excuses since the problems
are all gone.

Yep, that's what those stats are: excuses. Good to know fans are going to fan, regardless.

Is that stat any more meaningful than any other stat?  Is it more meaningful than yards, or points
given up, or turnovers, or sacks?


We all know the entire conversation.  Cousins has good stats, except for wins.  One side says Cousins good stats should lead
to good win totals, so it must be something other than Cousins causing the wins
to not be where they should be.  If only
the was better, then Cousins would get
the wins.  The other side says that
Cousins has a long track record of mediocre win totals, so the common
denominator is him.  Of course Cousins
has good stats and the defense doesn’t. 
We’ve surrounded him with the best surrounding cast possible and we’ve sacrificed
the defense to do so, and he’s still not carrying the team.


The only thing that is going to break the cycle is if we win
a SB with Cousins or if we get rid of Cousins and then win a SB with his
replacement.

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@"medaille" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"medaille" said:
Glad to know Cousins has no more excuses since the problems
are all gone.

Yep, that's what those stats are: excuses. Good to know fans are going to fan, regardless.

Is that stat any more meaningful than any other stat?  Is it more meaningful than yards, or points
given up, or turnovers, or sacks?


We all know the entire conversation.  Cousins has good stats, except for wins.  One side says Cousins good stats should lead
to good win totals, so it must be something other than Cousins causing the wins
to not be where they should be.  If only
the was better, then Cousins would get
the wins.  The other side says that
Cousins has a long track record of mediocre win totals, so the common
denominator is him.  Of course Cousins
has good stats and the defense doesn’t. 
We’ve surrounded him with the best surrounding cast possible and we’ve sacrificed
the defense to do so, and he’s still not carrying the team.


The only thing that is going to break the cycle is if we win
a SB with Cousins or if we get rid of Cousins and then win a SB with his
replacement.

How has the team "sacrificed the defense"  Exactly?  They have paid A LOT of people to come in here and paid a LOT of $$ to keep the good players.  So it was Cousin's fault the defense with the SAME line up went from the number one defense in scoring and yards per game in 2017 to 9th and 4th respectively the next year?  It wasn't Keenum and the offense that was the catalyst for the 13-3 season, it was that great defense.   

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@"Chuckf" said:

@"medaille" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"medaille" said:
Glad to know Cousins has no more excuses since the problems
are all gone.

Yep, that's what those stats are: excuses. Good to know fans are going to fan, regardless.

Is that stat any more meaningful than any other stat?  Is it more meaningful than yards, or points
given up, or turnovers, or sacks?


We all know the entire conversation.  Cousins has good stats, except for wins.  One side says Cousins good stats should lead
to good win totals, so it must be something other than Cousins causing the wins
to not be where they should be.  If only
the was better, then Cousins would get
the wins.  The other side says that
Cousins has a long track record of mediocre win totals, so the common
denominator is him.  Of course Cousins
has good stats and the defense doesn’t. 
We’ve surrounded him with the best surrounding cast possible and we’ve sacrificed
the defense to do so, and he’s still not carrying the team.


The only thing that is going to break the cycle is if we win
a SB with Cousins or if we get rid of Cousins and then win a SB with his
replacement.

How has the team "sacrificed the defense"  Exactly?  They have paid A LOT of people to come in here and paid a LOT of $$ to keep the good players.  So it was Cousin's fault the defense with the SAME line up went from the number one defense in scoring and yards per game in 2017 to 9th and 4th respectively the next year?  It wasn't Keenum and the offense that was the catalyst for the 13-3 season, it was that great defense.   

It is what it is.  We’ve
pretty much ignored our defense in the draft, while our offense is loaded with
high draft picks.  On defense we’ve had no
depth, hoping that a few older more expensive players would hold everything
together.  They got injured and then we
just didn’t have enough talent on defense to compete.  How many games over the last couple years
have we played with 2 starting caliber pass rushers?  Like 5-7? 
How many games in 2020 did we have more than one starting caliber DL
player?  Did we have any?  How about LB? 
Kendricks is a boss, but Barr was injured all of 2020 and then we had
the ghost of Barr in 2021.  Pierce, we
spent a fair amount on Pierce and then he no showed in 2020.  It’s Covid, not really anyones fault, but it
happened.  It’s not Cousins fault he got
paid so much, but it is a contributing factor. 
If Cousins got paid $10M less, that’s $10M more that the defense could
have had.  You could also argue that we
would have been much better off not resigning Hunter or Barr when we did, as we
could have used that money on players that actually played, and in hindsight
that’s 100% the right choice.  We executed
a personnel strategy and it didn’t work out.

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@"Chuckf" said:

@"medaille" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"medaille" said:
Glad to know Cousins has no more excuses since the problems
are all gone.

Yep, that's what those stats are: excuses. Good to know fans are going to fan, regardless.

Is that stat any more meaningful than any other stat?  Is it more meaningful than yards, or points
given up, or turnovers, or sacks?


We all know the entire conversation.  Cousins has good stats, except for wins.  One side says Cousins good stats should lead
to good win totals, so it must be something other than Cousins causing the wins
to not be where they should be.  If only
the was better, then Cousins would get
the wins.  The other side says that
Cousins has a long track record of mediocre win totals, so the common
denominator is him.  Of course Cousins
has good stats and the defense doesn’t. 
We’ve surrounded him with the best surrounding cast possible and we’ve sacrificed
the defense to do so, and he’s still not carrying the team.


The only thing that is going to break the cycle is if we win
a SB with Cousins or if we get rid of Cousins and then win a SB with his
replacement.

How has the team "sacrificed the defense"  Exactly?  They have paid A LOT of people to come in here and paid a LOT of $$ to keep the good players.  So it was Cousin's fault the defense with the SAME line up went from the number one defense in scoring and yards per game in 2017 to 9th and 4th respectively the next year?  It wasn't Keenum and the offense that was the catalyst for the 13-3 season, it was that great defense.   

So...  What you're saying is if Cousins has a top 5 or 10 defense this season we can expect to win 8-10 games?  Cuz that's what we had in 2018 amd 2019 and went 8-7-1 and 10-6

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@"Wetlander" said:

@"Chuckf" said:

@"medaille" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"medaille" said:
Glad to know Cousins has no more excuses since the problems
are all gone.

Yep, that's what those stats are: excuses. Good to know fans are going to fan, regardless.

Is that stat any more meaningful than any other stat?  Is it more meaningful than yards, or points
given up, or turnovers, or sacks?


We all know the entire conversation.  Cousins has good stats, except for wins.  One side says Cousins good stats should lead
to good win totals, so it must be something other than Cousins causing the wins
to not be where they should be.  If only
the was better, then Cousins would get
the wins.  The other side says that
Cousins has a long track record of mediocre win totals, so the common
denominator is him.  Of course Cousins
has good stats and the defense doesn’t. 
We’ve surrounded him with the best surrounding cast possible and we’ve sacrificed
the defense to do so, and he’s still not carrying the team.


The only thing that is going to break the cycle is if we win
a SB with Cousins or if we get rid of Cousins and then win a SB with his
replacement.

How has the team "sacrificed the defense"  Exactly?  They have paid A LOT of people to come in here and paid a LOT of $$ to keep the good players.  So it was Cousin's fault the defense with the SAME line up went from the number one defense in scoring and yards per game in 2017 to 9th and 4th respectively the next year?  It wasn't Keenum and the offense that was the catalyst for the 13-3 season, it was that great defense.   

So...  What you're saying is if Cousins has a top 5 or 10 defense this season we can expect to win 8-10 games?  Cuz that's what we had in 2018 amd 2019 and went 8-7-1 and 10-6

I really believe the offense will be better, less predictable and with a top 5 - 10 defense this team would win a lot of games.