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Lots of high fiving and it sounds like they worked the draft exactly how they wanted it. I found the part with the Lions trade down being his "dream scenario." The Packers trade down wasn't covered but them moving up to get Booth was as well as their Combine interview with Booth
Yep, saw this Supa. It definitely felt like Kwesi, O'Connell, and the rest of the front office folks were all in on trading with Detroit to get a pick cluster in that range they liked. Sounds like they felt the talent was deep there at positions they were targeting.
This made me feel better about how things went down, but Kwesi is a smart guy and I think he'll look back and realize he should have gotten more from Detroit. Even if Cine, Booth, and company pan out.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
Yep, saw this Supa. It definitely felt like Kwesi, O'Connell, and the rest of the front office folks were all in on trading with Detroit to get a pick cluster in that range they liked. Sounds like they felt the talent was deep there at positions they were targeting.
This made me feel better about how things went down, but Kwesi is a smart guy and I think he'll look back and realize he should have gotten more from Detroit. Even if Cine, Booth, and company pan out.
It's interesting that almost universaly this was thought of as not a very deep draft with about 15 blue chippers who carried a legit 1st round grade, yet Kwesi's "dream scenario" was to trade down and accumulate more picks in that second to third round range. We'll see how many serious contributors we get out of this draft but I thought the smart money was to take the blue chipper who fell in your lap, and use your later picks to maneuver around to add depth if they wanted.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ Wetlander said:
Yep, saw this Supa. It definitely felt like Kwesi, O'Connell, and the rest of the front office folks were all in on trading with Detroit to get a pick cluster in that range they liked. Sounds like they felt the talent was deep there at positions they were targeting.
This made me feel better about how things went down, but Kwesi is a smart guy and I think he'll look back and realize he should have gotten more from Detroit. Even if Cine, Booth, and company pan out.
It's interesting that almost universaly this was thought of as not a very deep draft with about 15 blue chippers who carried a legit 1st round grade, yet Kwesi's "dream scenario" was to trade down and accumulate more picks in that second to third round range. We'll see how many serious contributors we get out of this draft but I thought the smart money was to take the blue chipper who fell in your lap, and use your later picks to maneuver around to add depth if they wanted.
I think Kwesi decided well before the draft that they were going to try to move outside of that blue chip talent for more draft capital. This was not some out of the blue idea either, since many of us mocked up similar trades down.
The calculation is that while there might be 15 blue chippers in the draft, once you get past them, the vein of talent remains strong through 80.
We'll see if they made the right decision or not (I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Cine end up better than Hamilton), but I still think we should've held out for the '23 1st rounder. The LIONS 1st rounder, too. Man that's gonna burn for a while.
I find it interesting the way coach O’Connell and Kwesi collaborate and discuss the
players during the draft. I don’t recall
ever seen Spelly and Zim working together so closely. It almost seemed like it was RS’s job to get
Zim some players he could coach. I truly believe Kwesi wants input from everyone
around him to help build this team. I
really think KOC and Kwesi worked this draft very closely together and our
coach was on board and had input with each pick. I’m not so sure that happened as much when
Spelly was running the draft.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ Wetlander said:
Yep, saw this Supa. It definitely felt like Kwesi, O'Connell, and the rest of the front office folks were all in on trading with Detroit to get a pick cluster in that range they liked. Sounds like they felt the talent was deep there at positions they were targeting.
This made me feel better about how things went down, but Kwesi is a smart guy and I think he'll look back and realize he should have gotten more from Detroit. Even if Cine, Booth, and company pan out.
It's interesting that almost universaly this was thought of as not a very deep draft with about 15 blue chippers who carried a legit 1st round grade, yet Kwesi's "dream scenario" was to trade down and accumulate more picks in that second to third round range. We'll see how many serious contributors we get out of this draft but I thought the smart money was to take the blue chipper who fell in your lap, and use your later picks to maneuver around to add depth if they wanted.
I think Kwesi decided well before the draft that they were going to try to move outside of that blue chip talent for more draft capital. This was not some out of the blue idea either, since many of us mocked up similar trades down.
The calculation is that while there might be 15 blue chippers in the draft, once you get past them, the vein of talent remains strong through 80.
We'll see if they made the right decision or not (I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Cine end up better than Hamilton), but I still think we should've held out for the '23 1st rounder. The LIONS 1st rounder, too. Man that's gonna burn for a while.
I agree. It appears this trade with Detroit was agreed upon before the draft even started contingent upon the player the Lions wanted still being on the board, which he was. They certainly had a plan and executed it exactly how they wanted. Whether it was a wise plan remains to be seen
Quote: @HappyViking said:
I find it interesting the way coach O’Connell and Kwesi collaborate and discuss the
players during the draft. I don’t recall
ever seen Spelly and Zim working together so closely. It almost seemed like it was RS’s job to get
Zim some players he could coach. I truly believe Kwesi wants input from everyone
around him to help build this team. I
really think KOC and Kwesi worked this draft very closely together and our
coach was on board and had input with each pick. I’m not so sure that happened as much when
Spelly was running the draft.
I found it interesting seeing OConnell explaining the trades to the Wilfs...who looked absolutely befuddled..
KAM will learn. He is smart and he is getting experience. I do like how he is working with KOC. It is a good change. I know there are going to continue to be bumps along the way but it is better seeing something different. It is also going to take time for the full impact to show.
I am impressed with KAM & KOC so far. They had a draft plan and stuck to it. I know a lot of people here hated the Kitties trade, personally I will wait to see how it and the rest of the draft pan out.
Quote: @1VikesFan said:
I am impressed with KAM & KOC so far. They had a draft plan and stuck to it. I know a lot of people here hated the Kitties trade, personally I will wait to see how it and the rest of the draft pan out.
I was surprised they traded out of 34 because it appeared they gave up great value to get there. If they targeted Booth as has been rumored, then the secod trade was a thing of beauty. We did not have a need at WR and thats how the board fell.
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