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Vikings bringing tight end Irv Smith Jr. along slowly in return from knee injurySmith's first run as the No. 1 tight end last year was derailed by a preseason injury, but Vikings coach Kevin O'Connell says Smith has the "perfect skill set" for the team's new offense.
With every catch made and tackler avoided, buzz increased around tight end Irv Smith Jr. during Vikings training camp last season.
Smith appeared to put a bow on a promising offseason in the preseason finale at Kansas City. He played just 11 snaps. They featured a shallow crosser he turned into a 23-yard gain, another short toss for a 16-yard catch and run, and a run block resulting in the meniscus injury that ended his bid for a breakout campaign before it even started.
"I just felt like my knee kind of buckled a little bit," Smith recalled Tuesday during his first news conference since the injury, "and I really didn't think it was nothing too serious, but it was."
An MRI soon revealed the extent of Smith's injury. Now nearly eight months after his meniscus was repaired by Vikings physician Dr. Christopher Larson, the team wants to get the hype train going again – but slowly. Smith warmed up with Vikings tight ends during Tuesday's workouts. He then stayed with an athletic trainer off to the side as pass catchers rallied around quarterback Kirk Cousins to run routes.
Head coach Kevin O'Connell said the team wants to have Smith fully healthy by training camp, using a nine-week offseason program as a ramp-up period to that end. His football focus is currently limited to learning O'Connell's playbook.
"We're not going to push him this early on in the offseason until we get the green light from the docs," O'Connell said. "What I've challenged him to do is stressing him above the neck – making sure he's learning the system so he's gonna know what to do, where to line up."
Smith, who turns 24 in August, was just 20 years old when he was drafted in the second round out of Alabama. He was the youngest player selected within the 2019 draft's first couple rounds. After flashing potential as a backup to Kyle Rudolph for two years, he was expected to make a leap as a starter in 2021. He was sent down a different path with a "challenging" rehab.
"It's crazy. That's kind of life, though," Smith said. "Things get thrown at you that you don't expect. But it's about how you bounce back, your mentality. You can't be down in those situations. You got to pick yourself up, your family is there for you, my team was there for me. They believe in me, so that's all I can ask for."
Smith was drafted high by the previous regime because of his talents as a receiver and blocker, which O'Connell sees as a "perfect skill set" for the new Vikings offense.
"As far as the verbiage and the terms, all that will be new," O'Connell said. "But in a lot of ways when a guy does things well, you can translate it to really any system, whether it's being a vertical threat down the field, having a role in the run game. All the different ways we marry the run and the pass, I think Irv has a perfect skill set to have a big role in that."
Smith's first three NFL seasons were spent in a Gary Kubiak playbook that often featured him as an underneath target set up on play-action passes. The previous coaching staff wanted to get him more involved on third down last year, and Smith's injury opened the door for receiver K.J. Osborn to do that instead.
"I had a great camp and was looking forward to the season, but that momentum and everything hasn't slowed down," Smith said. "I'm very confident once I get back on the field I'm going to be 100 percent and we're going to keep building on that."
Once Smith gets clearance from Vikings trainers, he could be flying downfield more; O'Connell said he sees Smith as a "vertical threat" among other roles. But the team is not going to rush the hype train out of the station.
"Going back and watching him, I know he was feeling really good before the injury," O'Connell said. "It was obviously a shame he didn't get to see all that hard work come to fruition in the season. But that's what we're trying to help him do now. Get him right back to where he was, if not better, if not stronger. Then obviously it's about the scheme and Irv taking it from there."
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Wonder if they'll be a direct trade-off between KJO and ISJ production when they're both healthy? 

There's only 1 football right? 

If you look at how much Stafford threw in LA vs KC in MN it doesnt seem that far off...I'm not sure KOC is going to be slinging the ball more or not? 

Stafford: 404 completions  601 attempts, 102.9 rating (reg season)
Cousins: 372 completions, 561 attempts, 103.1 rating 


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Quote: @"purplefaithful" said:
Wonder if they'll be a direct trade-off between KJO and ISJ production when they're both healthy? 

There's only 1 football right? 

If you look at how much Stafford threw in LA vs KC in MN it doesnt seem that far off...I'm not sure KOC is going to be slinging the ball more or not? 

Stafford: 404 completions  601 attempts, 102.9 rating (reg season)
Cousins: 372 completions, 561 attempts, 103.1 rating 
Looking at the ratings we couldn’t possibly win with Cousins. Its just impossible. 
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ISJ has yet to “put it altogether” but he is clearly talented, he’s young, and he’s in a contract year. Barring injury I assume he’s going to ball out big time for us this season and get paid. Whether the team paying him after this season is the Vikings is a much different question. But I feel good about him for this year. Higbee and Everett got a ton looks with LAR. 
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Wonder if they found something else when they went in to repair his meniscus, seems like he should have been healthy by now…
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Was sorta hoping he'd be available late last season, so a little surprised to hear he's still recovering in April. Man, he looked so good in training camp last year.
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Quote: @"Kentis" said:
Wonder if they found something else when they went in to repair his meniscus, seems like he should have been healthy by now…
Right? This wasn't a full ACL. I'm no doctor, but I thought meniscus tears were on a much shorter timeline than this. 
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Wasnt it the Strength and Conditioning Coach that we fired the one who all of the players had an issue with and didnt trust. Perhaps add ISJ to that list since this occurred last offseason. Purely speculation but when there's smoke there's typically fire...
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Quote: @"MaroonBells" said:
@"Kentis" said:
Wonder if they found something else when they went in to repair his meniscus, seems like he should have been healthy by now…
Right? This wasn't a full ACL. I'm no doctor, but I thought meniscus tears were on a much shorter timeline than this. 
Depends on the procedure.  He most likely got a Meniscus surgery that allowed the meniscus to heal rather than being removed.  The long-term effect on the joint is far improved as 90% of the Meniscus is retained rather than removed, and concerns such as arthritis and bone on bone are far diminished.  Although everything is likely fully healed, the ramp up back to full speed will involve some pain.
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Quote: @"Waterboy" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"Kentis" said:
Wonder if they found something else when they went in to repair his meniscus, seems like he should have been healthy by now…
Right? This wasn't a full ACL. I'm no doctor, but I thought meniscus tears were on a much shorter timeline than this. 
Depends on the procedure.  He most likely got a Meniscus surgery that allowed the meniscus to heal rather than being removed.  The long-term effect on the joint is far improved as 90% of the Meniscus is retained rather than removed, and concerns such as arthritis and bone on bone are far diminished.  Although everything is likely fully healed, the ramp up back to full speed will involve some pain.
Yes, I remember reading about that in the decision making...Now was that ISJ? Or was that back in AP days? Or maybe it was both of em???


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