Vikings 7-7, Stefanski's Browns 7-7

[StickyBun]

You know Stefanski, right? The genius? The guy Minnesota 'let get away'? 

[Guest]

....and the other genius, George Paton, his team is also 7-7. 

[Guest]

2nd year HC
1st year GM
Vs
12 yr GM
7th year HC

Seems like a fair comparison

[Guest]

Brownies and Vikings are both vying for most disappointing teams in their conferences

[Guest]

@JimmyinSD said:
2nd year HC
1st year GM
Vs
12 yr GM
7th year HC

Seems like a fair comparison

I'm not comparing them to Zimmer and Spielman, I want them gone like most do. I'm talking about the posters who lost their shit when Stefanski and Paton left. Truly great coaches really are rare. Zimmer aint one of them. But I don't believe that Stefanski is, either. And the reason I mention Paton is that I was surprised about some of the things he's said being the man in Denver. Cocky almost. The NFL shit isn't easy. 

[Guest]

The one coach that left here (and that I was really pissed about at the time) was Tomlin. I was so over Chilly and I knew Tomlin was going to be a good one. 

Hard to believe that was what? 14 or 15 years ago now????

[Guest]

@StickyBun said:

@JimmyinSD said:
2nd year HC
1st year GM
Vs
12 yr GM
7th year HC

Seems like a fair comparison

I'm not comparing them to Zimmer and Spielman, I want them gone like most do. I'm talking about the posters who lost their shit when Stefanski and Paton left. Truly great coaches really are rare. Zimmer aint one of them. But I don't believe that Stefanski is, either. And the reason I mention Paton is that I was surprised about some of the things he's said being the man in Denver. Cocky almost. The NFL shit isn't easy. 

Jury is still out on Stefanski, IMO. Have they been extremely underwhelming this year just like the Vikes? Yes. Have they played a difficult schedule like the Vikes? Yes. Have they battled a ton of injuries? Yes. 

They beat the Vikes in Minnesota so I'll give them an edge. I expected more so I'm sure there will be pressure on Stefanski goin into next year

[Guest]

@StickyBun said:

@JimmyinSD said:
2nd year HC
1st year GM
Vs
12 yr GM
7th year HC

Seems like a fair comparison

I'm not comparing them to Zimmer and Spielman, I want them gone like most do. I'm talking about the posters who lost their shit when Stefanski and Paton left. Truly great coaches really are rare. Zimmer aint one of them. But I don't believe that Stefanski is, either. And the reason I mention Paton is that I was surprised about some of the things he's said being the man in Denver. Cocky almost. The NFL shit isn't easy. 

Yes,  but maybe give them half the tenure our guys have had before claiming anybody was wrong in wishing we had kept them in place of the ones we  want gone now.

[Guest]

@JimmyinSD said:

@StickyBun said:

@JimmyinSD said:
2nd year HC
1st year GM
Vs
12 yr GM
7th year HC

Seems like a fair comparison

I'm not comparing them to Zimmer and Spielman, I want them gone like most do. I'm talking about the posters who lost their shit when Stefanski and Paton left. Truly great coaches really are rare. Zimmer aint one of them. But I don't believe that Stefanski is, either. And the reason I mention Paton is that I was surprised about some of the things he's said being the man in Denver. Cocky almost. The NFL shit isn't easy. 

Yes,  but maybe give them half the tenure our guys have had before claiming anybody was wrong in wishing we had kept them in place of the ones we  want gone now.

lol, what fun is that??

[Guest]

@JimmyinSD said:
2nd year HC
1st year GM
Vs
12 yr GM
7th year HC

Seems like a fair comparison

One team was suppose to be a Super Bowl contender and the other is right where they were expected to be, I would say the Browns by far are the bigger disappointment.