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I have a hard time imagining the Vikes D doing well against a strong running team right now. I think we hang in there until the front seven of the D is worn down.Obviously I hoping for a better score than what I expect to see.
Vikes:17San Fran: 27
The way to beat the 49ers is to put 8 in the box and a spy on Deebo, forcing Jimmy G to beat you. And he can't.
I expect the Vikings to try this, but it's easier said than done. Without their starting backs, 49ers aren't the 7 yards and a cloud of dust team we saw in the playoffs two years ago. They're much scarier...with runs coming from backs, receivers and backup QBs.
In their two most recent losses to the Cards and Indy, Deebo didn't get a carry. In their two most recent wins, he's carried the ball 12 times and scored 3 TDs. He will likely be Zimmer's focus.
49ers are a mediocre defense against the run and the pass. Cousins and the Vikings offense are playing well and I expect that to continue in San Francisco, where the 49ers are 1-4. But the Vikings are going to need Darrisaw to bring his A-game against Nick Bosa.
Vikings 30
49ers 27
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
The way to beat the 49ers is to put 8 in the box and a spy on Deebo, forcing Jimmy G to beat you. And he can't.
I expect the Vikings to try this, but it's easier said than done. Without their starting backs, 49ers aren't the 7 yards and a cloud of dust team we saw in the playoffs two years ago. They're much scarier...with runs coming from backs, receivers and backup QBs.
In their two most recent losses to the Cards and Indy, Deebo didn't get a carry. In their two most recent wins, he's carried the ball 12 times and scored 3 TDs. He will likely be Zimmer's focus.
49ers are a mediocre defense against the run and the pass. Cousins and the Vikings offense are playing well and I expect that to continue in San Francisco, where the 49ers are 1-4. But the Vikings are going to need Darrisaw to bring his A-game against Nick Bosa.
Vikings 30
49ers 27
Open up the offense!
Over the years I've learned to rely on whats on brand for this franchise over match-up analytics...
On brand for this franchise is get a big exciting win @ home and crap the bed on the road the next week.
This is a big, important conference game and would be a tough out even with our DL intact.
Not feeling it today
SF 28
Vikings 22
But the best way to help the Vikings defensive line rests on the other side of the ball. In short, the offensive line needs to control this critical NFC game in every way that it utterly failed at the last time the Vikings were in San Francisco for a key conference game.
On Jan. 11, 2020, the Vikings lined up this way, left to right, along the offensive line for the NFC divisional playoff game at Levi's Stadium: Riley Reiff, Pat Elflein, Garrett Bradbury, Josh Kline and Brian O'Neill.
The running game was held to 21 yards on 10 carries. Dalvin Cook had 15 touches for 26 yards. Kirk Cousins tied a career high in sacks with six. And the offense limped home with 147 total yards in a 27-10 beatdown.
Coach Mike Zimmer was asked this week to assess the difference between the offensive line that lined up that day and the one he'll take with him into Santa Clara, Calif., on Sunday.
"I'm trying to think back to what the pass protection was two years ago," he said. "I think [this year's linemen] have done a pretty good job for the most part. And I think Kirk knows where to go with the football."
No, this year's offensive line isn't dominant. Yes, right guard Oli Udoh leads the NFL with nine holding penalties. Yes, the center position isn't ideal whether it's former first-round draft pick Garrett Bradbury or 2021 under-the-radar free-agent pickup Mason Cole starting.
But Sunday's likely lineup of Christian Darrisaw, Ezra Cleveland, Cole, Udoh and O'Neill is better than what the 49ers exposed in that playoff game. The Vikings can win with this offensive line, which they have proven with back-to-back signature victories over the Chargers and Packers.
The Vikings rank second in the league in sacks allowed per pass attempt (3.72%) and fifth in red-zone touchdowns (67.74%). The 49ers defense is 10th in sacks per pass attempt (7.3%) and 18th in red-zone touchdowns allowed (61.76%).
Cousins is third in passer rating (106.3) and has a league-low two interceptions. He also has been sacked only 14 times, tying a career low through 10 games in his seven years as a starter.
In his first six seasons as a starter, Cousins averaged 19.7 sacks through his first 10 games. His 10-game totals in Washington were 17, 14 and 25. With the Vikings, they are 26, 17, 19 and 14.
Cousins had been sacked at least once in 24 straight games heading into Week 6 at Carolina. His next three games went like this: zero sacks at Carolina, one sack against Dallas and zero sacks at Baltimore.
https://www.startribune.com/vikings-offe...600121360/
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
But the best way to help the Vikings defensive line rests on the other side of the ball. In short, the offensive line needs to control this critical NFC game in every way that it utterly failed at the last time the Vikings were in San Francisco for a key conference game.
On Jan. 11, 2020, the Vikings lined up this way, left to right, along the offensive line for the NFC divisional playoff game at Levi's Stadium: Riley Reiff, Pat Elflein, Garrett Bradbury, Josh Kline and Brian O'Neill.
The running game was held to 21 yards on 10 carries. Dalvin Cook had 15 touches for 26 yards. Kirk Cousins tied a career high in sacks with six. And the offense limped home with 147 total yards in a 27-10 beatdown.
Coach Mike Zimmer was asked this week to assess the difference between the offensive line that lined up that day and the one he'll take with him into Santa Clara, Calif., on Sunday.
"I'm trying to think back to what the pass protection was two years ago," he said. "I think [this year's linemen] have done a pretty good job for the most part. And I think Kirk knows where to go with the football."
No, this year's offensive line isn't dominant. Yes, right guard Oli Udoh leads the NFL with nine holding penalties. Yes, the center position isn't ideal whether it's former first-round draft pick Garrett Bradbury or 2021 under-the-radar free-agent pickup Mason Cole starting.
But Sunday's likely lineup of Christian Darrisaw, Ezra Cleveland, Cole, Udoh and O'Neill is better than what the 49ers exposed in that playoff game. The Vikings can win with this offensive line, which they have proven with back-to-back signature victories over the Chargers and Packers.
The Vikings rank second in the league in sacks allowed per pass attempt (3.72%) and fifth in red-zone touchdowns (67.74%). The 49ers defense is 10th in sacks per pass attempt (7.3%) and 18th in red-zone touchdowns allowed (61.76%).
Cousins is third in passer rating (106.3) and has a league-low two interceptions. He also has been sacked only 14 times, tying a career low through 10 games in his seven years as a starter.
In his first six seasons as a starter, Cousins averaged 19.7 sacks through his first 10 games. His 10-game totals in Washington were 17, 14 and 25. With the Vikings, they are 26, 17, 19 and 14.
Cousins had been sacked at least once in 24 straight games heading into Week 6 at Carolina. His next three games went like this: zero sacks at Carolina, one sack against Dallas and zero sacks at Baltimore.
https://www.startribune.com/vikings-offe...600121360/
OK, but let's not turn this 49ers team into the '85 Bears.
49ers did a lot of damage that day with Deforest Buckner, Dee Ford, and Kwon Alexander, none of whom are playing today. And they ran the ball down our throats with Mostert, Coleman and Brieda, none of whom are playing today.
Tough game, to be sure, and we'll need good games from Darrisaw, Cousins, Cook, whoever has Deebo and that "makeshit" DL in order to win on the road, but there hasn't been a team yet the Vikings haven't played to the finish, and I doubt this game will be any different.
Dalvin hasn't been spectacular for a while...I'd bet the personal stuff going on has affected him on the filed.
A big game from him is overdue and sorely needed today with the DL situation.
We should not expect a win today BUT,
These 2 teams are very similar in talent and coaching. I think today comes down to limiting Bosa and Armstead impact and Kirk continuing his stellar agressiveness and getting the ball out on time.
Niners love to stop the run and then grab and hold receivers. If we establish a run game and stay agressive down the field with shots I like our chances.
23-20 Vikings
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
But the best way to help the Vikings defensive line rests on the other side of the ball. In short, the offensive line needs to control this critical NFC game in every way that it utterly failed at the last time the Vikings were in San Francisco for a key conference game.
On Jan. 11, 2020, the Vikings lined up this way, left to right, along the offensive line for the NFC divisional playoff game at Levi's Stadium: Riley Reiff, Pat Elflein, Garrett Bradbury, Josh Kline and Brian O'Neill.
The running game was held to 21 yards on 10 carries. Dalvin Cook had 15 touches for 26 yards. Kirk Cousins tied a career high in sacks with six. And the offense limped home with 147 total yards in a 27-10 beatdown.
Coach Mike Zimmer was asked this week to assess the difference between the offensive line that lined up that day and the one he'll take with him into Santa Clara, Calif., on Sunday.
"I'm trying to think back to what the pass protection was two years ago," he said. "I think [this year's linemen] have done a pretty good job for the most part. And I think Kirk knows where to go with the football."
No, this year's offensive line isn't dominant. Yes, right guard Oli Udoh leads the NFL with nine holding penalties. Yes, the center position isn't ideal whether it's former first-round draft pick Garrett Bradbury or 2021 under-the-radar free-agent pickup Mason Cole starting.
But Sunday's likely lineup of Christian Darrisaw, Ezra Cleveland, Cole, Udoh and O'Neill is better than what the 49ers exposed in that playoff game. The Vikings can win with this offensive line, which they have proven with back-to-back signature victories over the Chargers and Packers.
The Vikings rank second in the league in sacks allowed per pass attempt (3.72%) and fifth in red-zone touchdowns (67.74%). The 49ers defense is 10th in sacks per pass attempt (7.3%) and 18th in red-zone touchdowns allowed (61.76%).
Cousins is third in passer rating (106.3) and has a league-low two interceptions. He also has been sacked only 14 times, tying a career low through 10 games in his seven years as a starter.
In his first six seasons as a starter, Cousins averaged 19.7 sacks through his first 10 games. His 10-game totals in Washington were 17, 14 and 25. With the Vikings, they are 26, 17, 19 and 14.
Cousins had been sacked at least once in 24 straight games heading into Week 6 at Carolina. His next three games went like this: zero sacks at Carolina, one sack against Dallas and zero sacks at Baltimore.
https://www.startribune.com/vikings-offe...600121360/
OK, but let's not turn this 49ers team into the '85 Bears.
49ers did a lot of damage that day with Deforest Buckner, Dee Ford, and Kwon Alexander, none of whom are playing today. And they ran the ball down our throats with Mostert, Coleman and Brieda, none of whom are playing today.
Tough game, to be sure, and we'll need good games from Darrisaw, Cousins, Cook, whoever has Deebo and that "makeshit" DL in order to win on the road, but there hasn't been a team yet the Vikings haven't played to the finish, and I doubt this game will be any different.
Lol well stated
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