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OT: This stalking stuff is insane
#1
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id...al-stalker

I think if my wife or girlfriend was the victim of this kind of stalking I would possibly either beat this guy to a pulp or worse. Its ridiculous that this is allowed to happen. I don't care about his mental health issues, its the reality of the situation that this guy could kill her. He needs to be locked away or put down. I wouldn't allow this to happen to someone I loved. What a crazy story.
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#2
Mental Health Care is a mess and the only way to get your loved one proper care is to have a strong advocate with the means to get to the right physicians and the right care setting which usually included $$$.   

This guys ex-wife and mother need to step up to the plate to protect the public/emily from him.  


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#3
It's absolutely ridiculous. Not only healthcare failed regarding mental health but law enforcement failed as well. He fell through the cracks in both systems. Cyberstalking and stalking laws need to be reviewed and enforced. They also need to be updated. I feel bad for Emily Infeld. That is such a traumatic thing to go through. It's unreal that some people didn't take it seriously. I am glad he is off the street. I wonder what sort of sentence he will get, sometimes the sentences are very light. 
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#4
Quote: @minny65 said:
Mental Health Care is a mess and the only way to get your loved one proper care is to have a strong advocate with the means to get to the right physicians and the right care setting which usually included $$$.   

This guys ex-wife and mother need to step up to the plate to protect the public/emily from him.  
Unfortunately many of these folk loose all contact and are estranged from family and friends as things get worse.  It's a shame that we throw our police into this mess trying to sort it out, there should be resources before there are victims, I am willing to consider this infrastructure.
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#5
Quote: @StickyBun said:
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id...al-stalker

I think if my wife or girlfriend was the victim of this kind of stalking I would possibly either beat this guy to a pulp or worse. Its ridiculous that this is allowed to happen. I don't care about his mental health issues, its the reality of the situation that this guy could kill her. He needs to be locked away or put down. I wouldn't allow this to happen to someone I loved. What a crazy story.
You don't care about his mental health issues? He needs to be locked away or put down? Seriously, put down?
With attitudes like this it's no wonder our system is shit. The system is unfixable as long as society in large continues to be completely ignorant about mental health. 
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#6
Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@StickyBun said:
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id...al-stalker

I think if my wife or girlfriend was the victim of this kind of stalking I would possibly either beat this guy to a pulp or worse. Its ridiculous that this is allowed to happen. I don't care about his mental health issues, its the reality of the situation that this guy could kill her. He needs to be locked away or put down. I wouldn't allow this to happen to someone I loved. What a crazy story.
You don't care about his mental health issues? He needs to be locked away or put down? Seriously, put down?
With attitudes like this it's no wonder our system is shit. The system is unfixable as long as society in large continues to be completely ignorant about mental health. 
You can’t let him do what he’s doing either. I dont know the answer when it comes to mental health but the gal should be able to live without constantly being in fear for her life. 
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#7
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@bigbone62 said:
@StickyBun said:
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id...al-stalker

I think if my wife or girlfriend was the victim of this kind of stalking I would possibly either beat this guy to a pulp or worse. Its ridiculous that this is allowed to happen. I don't care about his mental health issues, its the reality of the situation that this guy could kill her. He needs to be locked away or put down. I wouldn't allow this to happen to someone I loved. What a crazy story.
You don't care about his mental health issues? He needs to be locked away or put down? Seriously, put down?
With attitudes like this it's no wonder our system is shit. The system is unfixable as long as society in large continues to be completely ignorant about mental health. 
You can’t let him do what he’s doing either. I dont know the answer when it comes to mental health but the gal should be able to live without constantly being in fear for her life. 
Yep. And if it were any of our daughters, than tell me how you'd feel. When the guy shows up at her doorstep and blows her head off with a shotgun, I guess its ok because he suffered from mental illness. Or she slowly becomes non-functional with PTSD over the constant stress over the years from being stalked and he life is forever changed. This story is one of many:

https://people.com/crime/rebecca-schaeff...r-stalker/

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#8
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@AGRforever said:
@bigbone62 said:
@StickyBun said:
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id...al-stalker

I think if my wife or girlfriend was the victim of this kind of stalking I would possibly either beat this guy to a pulp or worse. Its ridiculous that this is allowed to happen. I don't care about his mental health issues, its the reality of the situation that this guy could kill her. He needs to be locked away or put down. I wouldn't allow this to happen to someone I loved. What a crazy story.
You don't care about his mental health issues? He needs to be locked away or put down? Seriously, put down?
With attitudes like this it's no wonder our system is shit. The system is unfixable as long as society in large continues to be completely ignorant about mental health. 
You can’t let him do what he’s doing either. I dont know the answer when it comes to mental health but the gal should be able to live without constantly being in fear for her life. 
Yep. And if it were any of our daughters, than tell me how you'd feel. When the guy shows up at her doorstep and blows her head off with a shotgun, I guess its ok because he suffered from mental illness. Or she slowly becomes non-functional with PTSD over the constant stress over the years from being stalked and he life is forever changed. This story is one of many:

https://people.com/crime/rebecca-schaeff...r-stalker/


No doubt, if it was my daughter(s) there would be consequences. 
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#9
Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@StickyBun said:
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id...al-stalker

I think if my wife or girlfriend was the victim of this kind of stalking I would possibly either beat this guy to a pulp or worse. Its ridiculous that this is allowed to happen. I don't care about his mental health issues, its the reality of the situation that this guy could kill her. He needs to be locked away or put down. I wouldn't allow this to happen to someone I loved. What a crazy story.
You don't care about his mental health issues? He needs to be locked away or put down? Seriously, put down?
With attitudes like this it's no wonder our system is shit. The system is unfixable as long as society in large continues to be completely ignorant about mental health. 
The issue of his mental health comes into play on whether he should go to prison or be locked up in a mental health facility,  the matter of him being taken off the streets by any means necessary comes in when his mental health issues are threatening the lives of innocent people.  The fact that this story was allowed to get this far suggests that yes there is a crisis in this country, but perhaps its that law enforcement is to slow to react to situations out of concern for law suits being brought because the optics of a situation aren't cut and dry legally.  Imagine the outrage if they hadnt taken him off  the streets and this story had a more tragic ending...  where would the system be then?

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#10
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@bigbone62 said:
@StickyBun said:
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id...al-stalker

I think if my wife or girlfriend was the victim of this kind of stalking I would possibly either beat this guy to a pulp or worse. Its ridiculous that this is allowed to happen. I don't care about his mental health issues, its the reality of the situation that this guy could kill her. He needs to be locked away or put down. I wouldn't allow this to happen to someone I loved. What a crazy story.
You don't care about his mental health issues? He needs to be locked away or put down? Seriously, put down?
With attitudes like this it's no wonder our system is shit. The system is unfixable as long as society in large continues to be completely ignorant about mental health. 
The issue of his mental health comes into play on whether he should go to prison or be locked up in a mental health facility,  the matter of him being taken off the streets by any means necessary comes in when his mental health issues are threatening the lives of innocent people.  The fact that this story was allowed to get this far suggests that yes there is a crisis in this country, but perhaps its that law enforcement is to slow to react to situations out of concern for law suits being brought because the optics of a situation aren't cut and dry legally.  Imagine the outrage if they hadnt taken him off  the streets and this story had a more tragic ending...  where would the system be then?

The State of Mental Health Care In AmericaWhile many countries still struggle with opening the discussion around mental health care, the United States was ranked third for burden of mental and behavioral disorders, adjusting for population size, by the World Health Organization. According to the National Alliance on Mental Illness, 47.6 million adults (19.1%) in the United States experienced a mental illness in 2018. On top of that 11.4 million adults (4.6%) experienced a serious mental illness that year. As for young people, in 2016, 7.7 million people aged 6-17 experienced a mental health disorder.
Yet, Mental Health America reports that this year over 26 million Americans with a mental illness are still going untreated. Yes, you read that right — over half (57.2%) of adults with a mental illness aren’t receiving treatment. For youth the numbers are just as upsetting with only 28.2% of those with severe depression reporting any consistent treatment, described as seven or more visits per year.
Now don’t go thinking this lack of care is by choice. In the same report, 22.3% of adults with a mental illness were found not to have access to the treatment they need, a figure that has sadly not decreased since 2011. No or limited insurance, lack of needed treatment type availability, and an ability to cover copays and treatments are just some of the contributing factors 
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