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Must have all been Paton.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
By this "approximate value" metric (value over expectation) developed by a Cowboys writer, Vikings had a top 10 draft five out of the last six years. They had a top 3 draft four out of the last six. And they had the #1 ranked draft three times. I'll say that again. The Vikings had the best draft in the NFL (by this metric anyway) 3 times in the last 6 years. And no, no other team comes anywhere close to that.
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
By this "approximate value" metric (value over expectation) developed by a Cowboys writer, Vikings had a top 10 draft five out of the last six years. They had a top 3 draft four out of the last six. And they had the #1 ranked draft three times. I'll say that again. The Vikings had the best draft in the NFL (by this metric anyway) 3 times in the last 6 years. And no, no other team comes anywhere close to that.
Why does this image of an uneasy Zimmer reading that come to mind...
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
By this "approximate value" metric (value over expectation) developed by a Cowboys writer, Vikings had a top 10 draft five out of the last six years. They had a top 3 draft four out of the last six. And they had the #1 ranked draft three times. I'll say that again. The Vikings had the best draft in the NFL (by this metric anyway) 3 times in the last 6 years. And no, no other team comes anywhere close to that.
Why does this image of an uneasy Zimmer reading that come to mind...
Because it should. He probably gets a mulligan for 2020 due to losing half his starters the same year they rebuilt his secondary. But if he gets those players back and the defense doesn't rebound to, say, top 3rd, he'll have more than a look of unease on his face.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
By this "approximate value" metric (value over expectation) developed by a Cowboys writer, Vikings had a top 10 draft five out of the last six years. They had a top 3 draft four out of the last six. And they had the #1 ranked draft three times. I'll say that again. The Vikings had the best draft in the NFL (by this metric anyway) 3 times in the last 6 years. And no, no other team comes anywhere close to that.
Why does this image of an uneasy Zimmer reading that come to mind...
Because it should. He probably gets a mulligan for 2020 due to losing half his starters the same year they rebuilt his secondary. But if he gets those players back and the defense doesn't rebound to, say, top 3rd, he'll have more than a look of unease on his face.
(Top 33% D + Top 10% O) = Playoff Expectations
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
By this "approximate value" metric (value over expectation) developed by a Cowboys writer, Vikings had a top 10 draft five out of the last six years. They had a top 3 draft four out of the last six. And they had the #1 ranked draft three times. I'll say that again. The Vikings had the best draft in the NFL (by this metric anyway) 3 times in the last 6 years. And no, no other team comes anywhere close to that.
Why does this image of an uneasy Zimmer reading that come to mind...
Because it should. He probably gets a mulligan for 2020 due to losing half his starters the same year they rebuilt his secondary. But if he gets those players back and the defense doesn't rebound to, say, top 3rd, he'll have more than a look of unease on his face.
(Top 33% D + Top 10% O) = Playoff Expectations
And if top 10 D + top 5 O? Boom. I don't think it's out of the question with a starting guard, a starting DL and a relatively healthy season. Of course injuries can make a fool of any expectation.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
By this "approximate value" metric (value over expectation) developed by a Cowboys writer, Vikings had a top 10 draft five out of the last six years. They had a top 3 draft four out of the last six. And they had the #1 ranked draft three times. I'll say that again. The Vikings had the best draft in the NFL (by this metric anyway) 3 times in the last 6 years. And no, no other team comes anywhere close to that.
Why does this image of an uneasy Zimmer reading that come to mind...
I'm not so sure Zimmer has anything to be uneasy about... it's kind of funny how you can draw a line where our drafts sucked pre-Zimmer and got better post-Zimmer.
I think a lot of Spielman's drafting success is directly related to Zimmer's influence telling Rick and the scouting department what traits he is looking for... Rick has mentioned this before in interviews... essentially they changed their scouting process when Zimmer came in and used more analytics and other traits to identify players that would be successful in our schemes.
The other aspect that should be factored in is coaching. It's no secret that Zimmer, Patterson, and the other coaches that have been here have done a good job of making sure guys are ready to play.
You can't praise Spielman for his drafting and then slight the coach who is in charge of developing that talent on the field. If anything, I think this shows that Zimmer and Spielman have done a good job of identifying, drafting, and then developing talent.
The roster has been largely held back by our inability to find a consistent QB and some unfortunate injuries to key players.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
By this "approximate value" metric (value over expectation) developed by a Cowboys writer, Vikings had a top 10 draft five out of the last six years. They had a top 3 draft four out of the last six. And they had the #1 ranked draft three times. I'll say that again. The Vikings had the best draft in the NFL (by this metric anyway) 3 times in the last 6 years. And no, no other team comes anywhere close to that.
Why does this image of an uneasy Zimmer reading that come to mind...
I'm not so sure Zimmer has anything to be uneasy about... it's kind of funny how you can draw a line where our drafts sucked pre-Zimmer and got better post-Zimmer.
I think a lot of Spielman's drafting success is directly related to Zimmer's influence telling Rick and the scouting department what traits he is looking for... Rick has mentioned this before in interviews... essentially they changed their scouting process when Zimmer came in and used more analytics and other traits to identify players that would be successful in our schemes.
The other aspect that should be factored in is coaching. It's no secret that Zimmer, Patterson, and the other coaches that have been here have done a good job of making sure guys are ready to play.
You can't praise Spielman for his drafting and then slight the coach who is in charge of developing that talent on the field. If anything, I think this shows that Zimmer and Spielman have done a good job of identifying, drafting, and then developing talent.
The roster has been largely held back by our inability to find a consistent QB and some unfortunate injuries to key players.
Well, as I've said many times, I think the success is due to having an experienced scouting staff that has been working together for several years now. And they seem to be getting better at it. It includes Rick, Paton, Jamaal, Zim and Andre, among others, but especially that group. They know what kind of players they want and they have a GM who is smart enough to listen to them. Don't take that for granted because not all GMs manage differing opinions well. Exhibit Howie, whose scouting staff wanted Jefferson, but whose coaching staff wanted Reagor. We have no idea who Rick would've listened to given the same conflict, but he seems to be making the right decision more often than not.
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