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02-02-2021, 02:14 AM

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4 all those who want to trade Kirk Cousins to SF (a rumor, no legs), for a 1st & | VikeFans.com
4 all those who want to trade Kirk Cousins to SF (a rumor, no legs), for a 1st & 3rd, let me say: Holcomb, Johnson (2nd time), Jackson, McNabb, Ponder, Freeman, Cassell, Bridgewater (14 TD avg), Keenum (backup now), Bradford (still injured). Kirk Avg = 102 QB rtg, 30 TDs/10 INT pic.twitter.com/HCVRcel5Q1

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02-02-2021, 02:14 AM

I swear, the Kirk Hate Club is a pack of Madden munchkins that live in a 'plug in a different player every game!" reality.

He produces a ton, could do much more with even average o-line play, and has actually afforded consistency where we'd had a revolving door. I'll never get the naysayers.

02-02-2021, 02:45 AM

I don't know to me it seemed like something to talk about in the off season. I don't see him going anywhere. There are still a lot of issues to address. Time will tell how it shakes out.

02-02-2021, 02:53 AM

Wow I forgot about Kelly Holcomb! yeah Kirk is steady and reliable and is basically Alex Smith and our fan base is begging for a guy like Mahomes. I want a Superbowl win not sure Kirk can get us there I hope so.

02-02-2021, 03:32 AM

I look at it this way. If Kirk is the reason you win a SB, you pay him one way; if the Vikes can win a SB with Kirk as QB, you pay him another way. He is paid as the former, not the latter. So his salary hinders the team reaching the SB.

02-02-2021, 03:40 AM

i like KC, but if he and 2 firsts get me Watson, i run to sign that deal

02-02-2021, 02:52 PM

Quote: @Bullazin said:
i like KC, but if he and 2 firsts get me Watson, i run to sign that deal

Doesn't Kirk have a no-trade clause that lets him veto any trade? So why would he go to Houston after escaping Washington three years ago? I think that could be a big factor in any Watson trade talks that involve the other team's starter. For instance, would Stafford have agreed to go to Houston? If he had the trade veto power, I really doubt it.

If a team wants to acquire Watson but already has a QB with a significant salary, they need to get that QB to agree to be part of the trade. I would cross Minnesota, San Francisco, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh off the list because all their starting QBs are too expensive to co-exist with Watson and too smart to go to Houston.

02-02-2021, 02:55 PM

Quote: @Jor-El said:

@Bullazin said:
i like KC, but if he and 2 firsts get me Watson, i run to sign that deal
Doesn't Kirk have a no-trade clause that lets him veto any trade? So why would he go to Houston after escaping Washington three years ago? I think that could be a big factor in any Watson trade talks that involve the other team's starter. For instance, would Stafford have agreed to go to Houston? If he had the trade veto power, I really doubt it.

If a team wants to acquire Watson but already has a QB with a significant salary, they need to get that QB to agree to be part of the trade. I would cross Minnesota, San Francisco, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh off the list because all their starting QBs are too expensive to co-exist with Watson and too smart to go to Houston.

He did, but I'm fairly certain the no-trade clause was eliminated with the most recent extension

02-02-2021, 03:03 PM

I'm not convinced KC + 2 1sts = Watson...I think the loot would have to be much more than that (i.e. include Hunter etc.)

Vikings might have to be part of a 3 way with SF somehow involved. Either way, it would be prohibitive - but Watson would immediately be the face of this franchise. Much more so than Cousins ever will be (unless he wins a SB or gets em to one).

That said, I like KC. He's got his klunkers, tends to run streaky. But I believe a finger of indictment needs to be pointed at the Vikings front office, for giving him one really piss poor pass-blocking OL to play behind.

02-02-2021, 03:10 PM

Quote: @Hawkvike25 said:

@Jor-El said:

@Bullazin said:
i like KC, but if he and 2 firsts get me Watson, i run to sign that deal
Doesn't Kirk have a no-trade clause that lets him veto any trade? So why would he go to Houston after escaping Washington three years ago? I think that could be a big factor in any Watson trade talks that involve the other team's starter. For instance, would Stafford have agreed to go to Houston? If he had the trade veto power, I really doubt it.

If a team wants to acquire Watson but already has a QB with a significant salary, they need to get that QB to agree to be part of the trade. I would cross Minnesota, San Francisco, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh off the list because all their starting QBs are too expensive to co-exist with Watson and too smart to go to Houston.

He did, but I'm fairly certain the no-trade clause was eliminated with the most recent extension

It was.