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Mac Jones: Please discuss
#1
To the college "scouts" and draft nerds this question is for you:
I am watching the CFP Championship and Mac Jones seems pretty good. Do you guys think he should be in play for us? Maybe a trade up in round 2 and then let him learn?

On another note D. Smith is on a different level. Ohio needs to call in help for the second half. Wow!
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#2
Jones is either the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft as far as rating and draft position.  He looks less mobile than the top 4 but that could simply be that he does not need to run or scramble.  In play for Vikings? maybe, don't think he will last til 40 .
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#3
I would take him over Fields, it reminds me of Tua vs Herbert.  I would definitely consider Jones at 14, after this game he is going in the first. 
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Quote: @rf54 said:
Jones is either the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft as far as rating and draft position.  He looks less mobile than the top 4 but that could simply be that he does not need to run or scramble.  In play for Vikings? maybe, don't think he will last til 40 .
Thank you. He keeps looking better and better. I am trying to rationalize not using our first on a QB but I feel like he would be a good option after the top 3-4. 
Heck watching D. Smith, someone will get a game changer. What if he is around at pick 10ish? What do you do?
As you already notice I am flip-flopping already. The Bama offense is simply too much
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#6
Just looked at stat line because not watching game but DeVonte has 12 catches and 3 TD's in a half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  What and against OSU.  I know their secondary is not top notch but they aren't second rate either.  Devonte is what 6'1 and 175 lbs???  I don't watch a lot of college but at that size is he prepared for the the NFL and the CB's that have 20lbs on him checking him off the line etc...  
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#7
Quote: @minny65 said:
Just looked at stat line because not watching game but DeVonte has 12 catches and 3 TD's in a half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  What and against OSU.  I know their secondary is not top notch but they aren't second rate either.  Devonte is what 6'1 and 175 lbs???  I don't watch a lot of college but at that size is he prepared for the the NFL and the CB's that have 20lbs on him checking him off the line etc...  
That's a great observation about his size. Yes he is skinny. He is just gliding through the defense mostly untouched. I don't hink he has been challanged once but man oh man is he good.
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#8
Quote: @minny65 said:
On cue, I just read this:

Vikings need to prepare for life after Kirk Cousins in the 2021 NFL Draft (msn.com)
Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 
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Quote: @mblack said:
Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 
Yea I have not swayed.  5 potential first round QB's does not happen often at all. Then add us picking 14 which also does not happen often at all.  We need our front office to hone in on the 4/5 (other then Lawrence) and identify who we think is a franchise QB and either move up at least before 49'ers (10) and get our guy.  Wilson was projected about 6 weeks ago to be around in the teens and now Top 5 easily and now maybe ahead of Fields who might fall after 5??  This will all change drastically after combine etc.  Lance seems to be hovering around 8-12 with an occasional Mac and Trask hovering around the teens.  

I am pretty convinced that out focus will not be on any of these QB's.  Spelly/front office/Zimmer are committed to Cousins and his really bad contract that they created last year to try and keep some veteran Defensive players that did not happen. 

I just wish Spelly will think out-of-the-box this draft and I doubt it.  He will think a 3T at 14 will be our elixir/fix for 2021.  

This thought process does not mean I am anti Spelly or Cousins, it is situational for THIS DRAFT.  
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#10
Quote: @minny65 said:
@mblack said:
Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 
Yea I have not swayed.  5 potential first round QB's does not happen often at all. Then add us picking 14 which also does not happen often at all.  We need our front office to hone in on the 4/5 (other then Lawrence) and identify who we think is a franchise QB and either move up at least before 49'ers (10) and get our guy.  Wilson was projected about 6 weeks ago to be around in the teens and now Top 5 easily and now maybe ahead of Fields who might fall after 5??  This will all change drastically after combine etc.  Lance seems to be hovering around 8-12 with an occasional Mac and Trask hovering around the teens.  

I am pretty convinced that out focus will not be on any of these QB's.  Spelly/front office/Zimmer are committed to Cousins and his really bad contract that they created last year to try and keep some veteran Defensive players that did not happen. 

I just wish Spelly will think out-of-the-box this draft and I doubt it.  He will think a 3T at 14 will be our elixir/fix for 2021.  

This thought process does not mean I am anti Spelly or Cousins, it is situational for THIS DRAFT.  
Quote: @minny65 said:
@mblack said:
Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 
Yea I have not swayed.  5 potential first round QB's does not happen often at all. Then add us picking 14 which also does not happen often at all.  We need our front office to hone in on the 4/5 (other then Lawrence) and identify who we think is a franchise QB and either move up at least before 49'ers (10) and get our guy.  Wilson was projected about 6 weeks ago to be around in the teens and now Top 5 easily and now maybe ahead of Fields who might fall after 5??  This will all change drastically after combine etc.  Lance seems to be hovering around 8-12 with an occasional Mac and Trask hovering around the teens.  

I am pretty convinced that out focus will not be on any of these QB's.  Spelly/front office/Zimmer are committed to Cousins and his really bad contract that they created last year to try and keep some veteran Defensive players that did not happen. 

I just wish Spelly will think out-of-the-box this draft and I doubt it.  He will think a 3T at 14 will be our elixir/fix for 2021.  

This thought process does not mean I am anti Spelly or Cousins, it is situational for THIS DRAFT.  

As much as I desperately want a legitimate franchise type QB, I just don't see the Vikings investing their first round pick this year on a guy they are essentially going to get no immediate return on with all the other roster needs, especially with no second round pick
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