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Cousins tds
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His hater club will hiss about all the scores and yards somehow being "garbage time".

It's really freakish to watch their babble all over social media.
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Elway was panned for a long time, before he won the biggie...He wasn't good enough to do it on his own, it happened when there was a great surround for him. 

It's a familiar tale - I hope KC's story here ends in a nice way too. 
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Quote: @Zanary said:
His hater club will hiss about all the scores and yards somehow being "garbage time".

It's really freakish to watch their babble all over social media.
Well he just had 405 yards and 3 TD in a game that meant nothing against a losing team and 6 of his 35 were against the Lions so it is a debatable argument.  Kirk does what he does best, put up stats when the game is out of reach or doesn't matter.  In the two biggest drives of the year in which we could have gone down for the winning scores which would have put us in the playoffs, we went 3 and out.  Another year of great stats yet falling apart against good teams. 
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Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Elway was panned for a long time, before he won the biggie...He wasn't good enough to do it on his own, it happened when there was a great surround for him. 

It's a familiar tale - I hope KC's story here ends in a nice way too. 
Elway had 15 playoff games before winning the big one, including 3 SB appearances.  Cousins (2 playoff appearances) is no John Elway
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Kirk is a good QB who put up good stats this year. And last year. And the year before that. I don't think anyone can say otherwise.
That said, if the Vikings are in position to take a QB with the potential to be great, I'd welcome them taking that shot.
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Quote: @pattersaur said:
Kirk is a good QB who put up good stats this year. And last year. And the year before that. I don't think anyone can say otherwise.
That said, if the Vikings are in position to take a QB with the potential to be great, I'd welcome them taking that shot.
If the Vikings can pull together a package that gets them Lawrence or Wilson, I would not be opposed to that. But outside of those two, I don't see a QB in the draft who would be an obvious upgrade from Cousins...and certainly not for several years. I think the best thing for the Vikings is to continue building around Cousins. Give him better protection and some defense. This team should be pretty good next year. 
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@purplefaithful said:
Elway was panned for a long time, before he won the biggie...He wasn't good enough to do it on his own, it happened when there was a great surround for him. 

It's a familiar tale - I hope KC's story here ends in a nice way too. 
Elway had 15 playoff games before winning the big one, including 3 SB appearances.  Cousins (2 playoff appearances) is no John Elway
Elway was on several really good Bronco teams where he was considered the weakness. In fact, he had more interceptions than TDs until his 11th season. That's just nuts. Around that time, this city was ready to run him out of town on a rail. Because he was the problem. What's more, he couldn't win the big one...until he did. And then did it twice. Narrative flipped. 
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@pattersaur said:
Kirk is a good QB who put up good stats this year. And last year. And the year before that. I don't think anyone can say otherwise.
That said, if the Vikings are in position to take a QB with the potential to be great, I'd welcome them taking that shot.
If the Vikings can pull together a package that gets them Lawrence or Wilson, I would not be opposed to that. But outside of those two, I don't see a QB in the draft who would be an obvious upgrade from Cousins...and certainly not for several years. I think the best thing for the Vikings is to continue building around Cousins. Give him better protection and some defense. This team should be pretty good next year.

Agree 100% with all of this.
My problem with this organization is where do we go from there? Let's say we actually are "pretty good" next year. The following season, will we take the next step? I want to believe, but Zim's entire tenure tells me we won't. It's a fine line between being a good fan and believing, versus blind optimism in the face of mounting evidence. Skol always and I want to be a good fan, but I'm jaded.


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Quote: @pattersaur said:
@MaroonBells said:
@pattersaur said:
Kirk is a good QB who put up good stats this year. And last year. And the year before that. I don't think anyone can say otherwise.
That said, if the Vikings are in position to take a QB with the potential to be great, I'd welcome them taking that shot.
If the Vikings can pull together a package that gets them Lawrence or Wilson, I would not be opposed to that. But outside of those two, I don't see a QB in the draft who would be an obvious upgrade from Cousins...and certainly not for several years. I think the best thing for the Vikings is to continue building around Cousins. Give him better protection and some defense. This team should be pretty good next year.

Agree 100% with all of this.
My problem with this organization is where do we go from there? Let's say we actually are "pretty good" next year. The following season, will we take the next step? I want to believe, but Zim's entire tenure tells me we won't. It's a fine line between being a good fan and believing, versus blind optimism in the face of mounting evidence. Skol always and I want to be a good fan, but I'm jaded.


I would say "pretty good" is where ya wanna be. It's certainly where ya gotta start.

The way I see it, getting past that, winning in the playoffs, winning a Super Bowl, is all about staying healthy and getting big games at key moments from your game changers. It's easiest if your game changer is the QB (Mahomes, Brady), but it doesn't have to be (Foles, Von Miller). 

The question is...can Kirk Cousins win a Super Bowl? Yeah, I think so. Hell, if Nick Foles can, he can. Can Zimmer put together a game plan to win an NFCC? A Super Bowl? Yeah, I think so.

Do I trust him to? Next question. 

I will say that I think we're more likely to get there with him than without him.

WITH Zimmer we're going to be pretty good next year. Great, now let's get lucky, healthy and get a big game from a superstar. We have no shortage of options: Jefferson, Thielen, Cook, Hunter, Kendricks...

WITHOUT Zimmer, no guarantee it's not the next Les Steckel. Or he could be awesome...like the guy everyone wanted last year: Kyle Shanahan. Or the guy everyone wanted the year before: Doug Pederson. Just sayin...

Makes me think of this...(Ummmmm...don't image search "this years model" in front of your wives and girlfriends.)

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