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AGRforever · 11-04-2020, 02:26 PM

With Michigan flipping to blue, I'm ready to call it over. Senate will stay red, house and president will be blue.

I can't imagine what the legal battles are going to look like but when its all said and done Trump probably lost the election because he made fun of McCain in Arizona.

11-04-2020, 02:33 PM

Too early to call imo AGR...

Lots of mail in ballots to go in the final 9-11 states that will decide POTUS. Trump has a sizable lead in PA, but lots of urban/suburban mail in ballots to go there as well.

Yah, too early for either side to feel bullish

11-04-2020, 02:41 PM

Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Too early to call imo AGR...

Lots of mail in ballots to go in the final 9-11 states that will decide POTUS. Trump has a sizable lead in PA, but lots of urban/suburban mail in ballots to go there as well.

Yah, too early for either side to feel bullish

considering what is left to count, and how those remaining votes typically fall, I think AGR is right, urban areas and mail in votes typically run heavy blue and that will likely be enough to push Biden over the top.

11-04-2020, 02:49 PM

Like I said many times before, I'm no Biden lover but I'm a fierce Trump hater. But some of my **cough** friends that are Trump supporters want the states to stop counting votes. WTF?? You count every vote you can. Its like talking to pouty children having a tantrum. Jesus. My wife and I have learned some things about a few friends that have shocked the shit out of us as far as how stupid they've acted and what has come out of their mouths.

11-04-2020, 02:54 PM

Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Too early to call imo AGR...

Lots of mail in ballots to go in the final 9-11 states that will decide POTUS. Trump has a sizable lead in PA, but lots of urban/suburban mail in ballots to go there as well.

Yah, too early for either side to feel bullish

Biden's been hitting 70/30 on the mail-ins. Trump isn't going to flip WI, MI or NV. Biden is ahead in all 3 and mail-are breaking Biden's way. Even if they got as low as 50/50 Biden still hits 270.

Blue houseRed SenateBlue Potus

11-04-2020, 03:12 PM

Quote: @AGRforever said:

With Michigan flipping to blue, I'm ready to call it over. Senate will stay red, house and president will be blue.

I can't imagine what the legal battles are going to look like but when its all said and done Trump probably lost the election because he made fun of McCain in Arizona.

It's far from over, but I agree with your McCain thing. If Trump loses because he was an asshole, it would be appropriate.

11-04-2020, 03:24 PM

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/e...df4ca23803

11-04-2020, 03:37 PM

Quote: @StickyBun said:
Like I said many times before, I'm no Biden lover but I'm a fierce Trump hater. But some of my **cough** friends that are Trump supporters want the states to stop counting votes. WTF?? You count every vote you can. Its like talking to pouty children having a tantrum. Jesus. My wife and I have learned some things about a few friends that have shocked the shit out of us as far as how stupid they've acted and what has come out of their mouths.

All the votes of the American people have to be counted. Period. The GOP legislatures refused to allow mail ballots to be counted earlier. You can't get numbers if you can't start counting. There is also the hearing about the USPS. It is important to get it right.

11-04-2020, 03:53 PM

Quote: @Vikergirl said:

@StickyBun said:
Like I said many times before, I'm no Biden lover but I'm a fierce Trump hater. But some of my **cough** friends that are Trump supporters want the states to stop counting votes. WTF?? You count every vote you can. Its like talking to pouty children having a tantrum. Jesus. My wife and I have learned some things about a few friends that have shocked the shit out of us as far as how stupid they've acted and what has come out of their mouths.
All the votes of the American people have to be counted. Period. The GOP legislatures refused to allow mail ballots to be counted earlier. You can't get numbers if you can't start counting. There is also the hearing about the USPS. It is important to get it right.

Its fine to count them but if it doesn't change the result it doesn't change the result. Michigan keeps going more blue so thats over for Trump.
You could make a case that if Trump kept PA, NC and GA and somehow flipped NV with a decent chunk of the vote outstanding that he could hit 270. NV has been a purple/blue state but it's economy is in shambles from corona. Do NV voters blame that on their D. Gov or their R. Potus?

You could make a strong argument (I don't agree with this) that the fastest path back to normalcy in NV is to open everything back up and say to hell with covid. Trump is more likely to take that stance then Biden.

11-04-2020, 04:02 PM

Quote: @AGRforever said:
You could make a case that if Trump kept PA, NC and GA and somehow flipped NV with a decent chunk of the vote outstanding that he could hit 270.

I think Trump ekes out Ga, NC and Pa.

Comes down to Nevada and Wisco, I think. Not looking good for Trump.