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Niners had 280 yards rushing. wow! Jimmu G only threw 11 passes. Kinda like our first game win against Atlanta. So where is the NFL going? Passing league or awesome running game to win? Cook Must be happy seeing this game for future career $$$ . Personally, I think teams focussed too much on defending the pass and forgot defending the run as a priority on D. Thus the Niners took advantage. And had a stud running blocking O line. Question then: is Zimmer correct in wanting a great run game? And what do we do to take our run game to the next level?? This game opened my eyes as far as run game importance. Packers gave up 280 rushing yards!!!!!!!!!
2 things: they had a better OL... and a variety of run blocking schemes (not just inside and outside zone).
It all comes back to the OL. The run game is not going anywhere without it and the same goes for the passing game.
I think a huge part of it for SF is how stressful their passing attack is, and how defenses are forced to account for everything the 49ers can do. Their passing game rarely asks or needs Garappolo to make a bunch of down field throws from deep in the pocket. They have motions and quick strike stuff that quickly makes defenses go oh shit. They make defenses spread out as they start accounting for coverage and they get into their rhythm... They run through defenses as they try to figure out what the hell is going on. Garappolo went 6/8 for 77 yards on the day!
Ryan Tannehill will be a salty guy when he hears about that stat line.
Look at Tennessee and how their heavy run game fell apart without a passing attack that forced KC to respect it. They dominated their way to the AFCCG. Tannehill found magic with the passing calls they went with around some heavy running. Their offensive line was getting some pretty high praises prior to today. They tried forcing Henry against KC and it wasn't happening. They had nothing they could do as a passing offense to take advantage of KC selling out to stop Henry...
It's about rhythm. Green Bay didn't give a shit about how our offense lined up against them in regards to coverage presnap. Like us against SF, they were very concerned about covering/containing Kittle, Samuel, Sanders... all the weapons we hear about on SF's offense. But their passing game is far from a classic drop back and throw type... all of those weapons are weapons because their offense is smartly executed by the staff and QB.
For us, I don't disagree we need offensive lineman at all. It's a major priority. This team can't be like Tennessee was today. Dalvin Cook isn't Adrian Peterson - this line won't manhandle defenses for 4 quarters. If Kirk Cousins is up to it, this offense has a lot of pieces in place to spread defenses out enough for Cook to go wild in both areas of the offense. You have to be able to unstack the box as much as you need a great offensive line. The 49ers, Shanahan and the 6/8 Jimmy G had the Packers absolutely unwilling to commit to stopping the run. Dalvin destroys teams that are respecting Kirk Cousins and our passing attack's potential.
I think San Fran's offensive success starts with their D, Without that attacking style that keeps opposing offenses from finding rhythm, their passing game would likely have to be much more involved. That D doesnt take half the field off, they get out there and play like every play is 3 and goal from the 8, up by 4, late in the 4th quarter.
They dont allow teams to flip field position all the time, they get after the QB like savages, and they give so many different looks pre and post snap that it really keeps opposing teams off balance and off the score boards.
Their O philosophy is impressive, but their defensive success is what keeps the pressure and the game off jimmy GQs shoulders.
Quote: @BlackMagic7 said:
I think a huge part of it for SF is how stressful their passing attack is, and how defenses are forced to account for everything the 49ers can do. Their passing game rarely asks or needs Garappolo to make a bunch of down field throws from deep in the pocket. They have motions and quick strike stuff that quickly makes defenses go oh shit. They make defenses spread out as they start accounting for coverage and they get into their rhythm... They run through defenses as they try to figure out what the hell is going on. Garappolo went 6/8 for 77 yards on the day!
Ryan Tannehill will be a salty guy when he hears about that stat line.
Look at Tennessee and how their heavy run game fell apart without a passing attack that forced KC to respect it. They dominated their way to the AFCCG. Tannehill found magic with the passing calls they went with around some heavy running. Their offensive line was getting some pretty high praises prior to today. They tried forcing Henry against KC and it wasn't happening. They had nothing they could do as a passing offense to take advantage of KC selling out to stop Henry...
It's about rhythm. Green Bay didn't give a shit about how our offense lined up against them in regards to coverage presnap. Like us against SF, they were very concerned about covering/containing Kittle, Samuel, Sanders... all the weapons we hear about on SF's offense. But their passing game is far from a classic drop back and throw type... all of those weapons are weapons because their offense is smartly executed by the staff and QB.
For us, I don't disagree we need offensive lineman at all. It's a major priority. This team can't be like Tennessee was today. Dalvin Cook isn't Adrian Peterson - this line won't manhandle defenses for 4 quarters. If Kirk Cousins is up to it, this offense has a lot of pieces in place to spread defenses out enough for Cook to go wild in both areas of the offense. You have to be able to unstack the box as much as you need a great offensive line. The 49ers, Shanahan and the 6/8 Jimmy G had the Packers absolutely unwilling to commit to stopping the run. Dalvin destroys teams that are respecting Kirk Cousins and our passing attack's potential.
Great post. The 49ers personnel with Shanahan as the mastermind is a nightmare to scheme against. It will be interesting to see what the Chiefs come up with to stop them. However, will the 49ers be able to run the ball as much as they have the past two weeks trying to keep up with Mahomes and Reid? KC's defense is playing much better. If they can take away the run or at least slow it down, they can get after Jimmy G with their pass rush.
Quote: @TBro said:
@ BlackMagic7 said:
I think a huge part of it for SF is how stressful their passing attack is, and how defenses are forced to account for everything the 49ers can do. Their passing game rarely asks or needs Garappolo to make a bunch of down field throws from deep in the pocket. They have motions and quick strike stuff that quickly makes defenses go oh shit. They make defenses spread out as they start accounting for coverage and they get into their rhythm... They run through defenses as they try to figure out what the hell is going on. Garappolo went 6/8 for 77 yards on the day!
Ryan Tannehill will be a salty guy when he hears about that stat line.
Look at Tennessee and how their heavy run game fell apart without a passing attack that forced KC to respect it. They dominated their way to the AFCCG. Tannehill found magic with the passing calls they went with around some heavy running. Their offensive line was getting some pretty high praises prior to today. They tried forcing Henry against KC and it wasn't happening. They had nothing they could do as a passing offense to take advantage of KC selling out to stop Henry...
It's about rhythm. Green Bay didn't give a shit about how our offense lined up against them in regards to coverage presnap. Like us against SF, they were very concerned about covering/containing Kittle, Samuel, Sanders... all the weapons we hear about on SF's offense. But their passing game is far from a classic drop back and throw type... all of those weapons are weapons because their offense is smartly executed by the staff and QB.
For us, I don't disagree we need offensive lineman at all. It's a major priority. This team can't be like Tennessee was today. Dalvin Cook isn't Adrian Peterson - this line won't manhandle defenses for 4 quarters. If Kirk Cousins is up to it, this offense has a lot of pieces in place to spread defenses out enough for Cook to go wild in both areas of the offense. You have to be able to unstack the box as much as you need a great offensive line. The 49ers, Shanahan and the 6/8 Jimmy G had the Packers absolutely unwilling to commit to stopping the run. Dalvin destroys teams that are respecting Kirk Cousins and our passing attack's potential.
Great post. The 49ers personnel with Shanahan as the mastermind is a nightmare to scheme against. It will be interesting to see what the Chiefs come up with to stop them. However, will the 49ers be able to run the ball as much as they have the past two weeks trying to keep up with Mahomes and Reid? KC's defense is playing much better. If they can take away the run or at least slow it down, they can get after Jimmy G with their pass rush.
I'd say running the ball and keeping it out of the hands of Mahomes is the best way to keep up with the Chiefs.
Quote: @TBro said:
@ BlackMagic7 said:
I think a huge part of it for SF is how stressful their passing attack is, and how defenses are forced to account for everything the 49ers can do. Their passing game rarely asks or needs Garappolo to make a bunch of down field throws from deep in the pocket. They have motions and quick strike stuff that quickly makes defenses go oh shit. They make defenses spread out as they start accounting for coverage and they get into their rhythm... They run through defenses as they try to figure out what the hell is going on. Garappolo went 6/8 for 77 yards on the day!
Ryan Tannehill will be a salty guy when he hears about that stat line.
Look at Tennessee and how their heavy run game fell apart without a passing attack that forced KC to respect it. They dominated their way to the AFCCG. Tannehill found magic with the passing calls they went with around some heavy running. Their offensive line was getting some pretty high praises prior to today. They tried forcing Henry against KC and it wasn't happening. They had nothing they could do as a passing offense to take advantage of KC selling out to stop Henry...
It's about rhythm. Green Bay didn't give a shit about how our offense lined up against them in regards to coverage presnap. Like us against SF, they were very concerned about covering/containing Kittle, Samuel, Sanders... all the weapons we hear about on SF's offense. But their passing game is far from a classic drop back and throw type... all of those weapons are weapons because their offense is smartly executed by the staff and QB.
For us, I don't disagree we need offensive lineman at all. It's a major priority. This team can't be like Tennessee was today. Dalvin Cook isn't Adrian Peterson - this line won't manhandle defenses for 4 quarters. If Kirk Cousins is up to it, this offense has a lot of pieces in place to spread defenses out enough for Cook to go wild in both areas of the offense. You have to be able to unstack the box as much as you need a great offensive line. The 49ers, Shanahan and the 6/8 Jimmy G had the Packers absolutely unwilling to commit to stopping the run. Dalvin destroys teams that are respecting Kirk Cousins and our passing attack's potential.
Great post. The 49ers personnel with Shanahan as the mastermind is a nightmare to scheme against. It will be interesting to see what the Chiefs come up with to stop them. However, will the 49ers be able to run the ball as much as they have the past two weeks trying to keep up with Mahomes and Reid? KC's defense is playing much better. If they can take away the run or at least slow it down, they can get after Jimmy G with their pass rush.
Their running game is so good its all they needed both against us and the fudge. Run it till they stop it, easy as pie. Mix in those reverses and quick tosses and its all that was needed. Fudge had 8 and 9 in the box and still couldnt get wins unless they run blitzed.
Passing game needs to exploit the MIDDLE of the field, 9ers are great at this also. Zimmers offenses mirror that of Chilliwacker’s in that we do not exploit the middle of the field
and that drives me nuts. Our receivers are always running flags, fades and outs ( just dated myself lol).
When a D can pretty much count on not being attacked in a certain area, it makes it much easier for them to scheme. We HAVE to get that changed.
Of the top 10 Highest Paid Running Backs in 2019, only 3 made the playoffs:
#7 Jerick Mckinnon - 49ers - hurt all year
#9 Lamar Miller - Texans - hurt all year
#10 Dion Lewis - Titans - backup all year
Guys like Henry, Dalvin, Kamara will get paid soon, but once they do, will those still be playoff teams? Zeke, Gurley, Devonte Freeman, David Johnson all played for contenders in the past few years on cheap deals. Now they got paid, and their teams sat at home. Clearly it's not all their fault, but in a salary cap league, the 2019 playoffs are evidence that paying a top RB might not be the best plan.
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Of the top 10 Highest Paid Running Backs in 2019, only 3 made the playoffs:
#7 Jerick Mckinnon - 49ers - hurt all year
#9 Lamar Miller - Texans - hurt all year
#10 Dion Lewis - Titans - backup all year
Guys like Henry, Dalvin, Kamara will get paid soon, but once they do, will those still be playoff teams? Zeke, Gurley, Devonte Freeman, David Johnson all played for contenders in the past few years on cheap deals. Now they got paid, and their teams sat at home. Clearly it's not all their fault, but in a salary cap league, the 2019 playoffs are evidence that paying a top RB might not be the best plan.
putting it all on KC with this OL isn't a good religion for 2020...If anything (as others have pointed out) this post-season reminds us of the importance of the running game.
Question for the Vikings is how much of the cap will they give to Cook? Which is so inter-connected with their plans for aging D players and Cousins too.
Will be a fascinating off-season for our beloved purple....
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