Quote: @A1Janitor said:
LOL theories.
Read the news.
news according to who? thats my issues with all this bull shit is that the news is twisted slanted and largely made up to fit what ever narrative the delivering party wants to sell. I am sure those that you so vehemently disagree with trust their sources as much as you trust yours. I personally havent found a source that I can trust and dont have time to fact check shit that really deep down is nothing that I can really affect or on a day to day matter affects me. I am not saying my head is in the sand, or that I choose to be uninformed, but I would rather take a step back and let the bull shit get filtered out by time and make my stand on proven unbiased fact instead of the curve of the day.
Well for instance ... i stated awhile ago that the “whistleblower” was a CIA spy connected to Joe Biden’s campaign - and worked with Biden in the white house ... accompanied the Bidens to Ukraine on Air Force 2.
That was reported by the washington examiner last night before the rally. Trump talked about it.
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
Well for instance ... i stated awhile ago that the “whistleblower” was a CIA spy connected to Joe Biden’s campaign - and worked with Biden in the white house ... accompanied the Bidens to Ukraine on Air Force 2.
That was reported by the washington examiner last night before the rally. Trump talked about it.
good to hear. thats what I wait for. each side throws 1000 things out a day, eventually the other side will either confirm or dispel a large % of them or they get dropped completely. I wait for the small pieces to pass the test of truthfulness.. as much of a test as that can be in todays news system.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ A1Janitor said:
And yes ... I elect to tell you how I feel about your moderation skills in private messages so you know and it doesn’t become a fight between us on the site.
For you to throw it into my face is intolerable.
you do it in a PM because you know you would be banned for saying what you say on the open forum. for you to act the way you do is intolerable. clean it up or move on.
Yep. Or start defending the liberal side, it would fit better.
Quote: @pumpf said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ pumpf said:
@ mblack said:
@ pumpf said:
I agree. So do alot of Republicans.
I know that there are a bunch of Democrats opposed to it, too... but is it because Trump did it (and they reflexively oppose everything he does) or because they genuinely care about the Kurds.
From 2015: https://www.investors.com/politics/edito...the-kurds/
And this link says that it's not (technically?) the Kurds we're abandoning, but rather the YPG, which has been connected to a terrorist group: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/obama-...rt/1605149
So now I'm not sure what to think. Time to do some more research. Unfortunately, we can't just assume that the headlines are accurate or true anymore.
So how does this have anything to do with the decision made by Trump (even when many told him was not a good idea) that resulted in the civilians being killed?
This is not 2015 nor is Obama president. These killings are a result of a decision the US President made a few days ago - a few days ago again I repeat.
You really are not sure about what to think?
Well, who put our troops there in the first place? What did Obama do about this situation when he was in office? Although Trump's decision may not have a direct link to Obama, you can bet there are all kinds of indirect links. Of course, I'm honest enough to admit that I don't know everything about this issue. I do know that I don't think it's a good idea... and, as I said, most Republicans seem to agree.
What still makes me wonder: is if liberals are ACTUALLY opposed to pulling troops out of a foreign war... or if they just- automatically- oppose everything that Trump does.
I see alot of virtue-signaling in this thread... but very little substance. That tells me that people here don't understand the issue any better than I do... but Orange Man Bad, so here they are.
Meanwhile thousands of American children were aborted today. And yesterday. And the day before that...
Just fucking stop already. Right now kids and civilians are being slaughtered. And you are a man of the faith. Just fucking stop. We turned our backs on our allies and they are slaughtering people. these are the people that agreed to fight them there so that we didn't have to fight them here. And we left them high and dry. It's disgusting and anyone that doesn't call it that is a yellow bellied shallow shit heel. If you served you KNOW this is completely fucked up.
This isn't team red and team blue. It makes me sick to my stomach and it should you too.
Mike,
I love ya... but this is pure BS. First of all, I already said that I agreed that this was a bad move. But that wasn't enough for you. You wanted Trump's head on a platter, which I didn't give you. So, for that reason, you tell me to stop. I didn't defend Trump. I did confess that there is probably more to this issue than just Orange Man Bad. And that's the problem for you. It is. You should just admit that you don't care one iota about the people being killed; all you care about is finding (yet another) reason to attack Trump. The proof is in the posts: there have been all kinds of atrocities committed in the world. And you haven 't commented on any of them that Trump can't be blamed for. A few years ago there were stories about the systematic execution of Christians in Muslim countries. Hundreds of Christians being killed each day... and thousands more being attacked and displaced. Did you EVER say one word about it? Nope. Why not? Because there was no way to blame Trump for it (Obama was president).
Isn't it strange that the ONLY atrocities you care about... are the ones that you can blame on President Trump? This isn't in any way to defend Trump. It's to point out your hypocrisy. If you care about people, you ought to care about all of them- not just the ones that further your political agenda / personal vendetta.
By the way: a long time ago, you once disregarded my concerns about Obama by asking, "How has it changed your life?" So I will ask you the same question: How- personally- has anything that Trump has done changed your life?
Funny that all of the sudden the left now care about Christians in the middle east. After all these years, it is nice to know they do have a heart.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ A1Janitor said:
And yes ... I elect to tell you how I feel about your moderation skills in private messages so you know and it doesn’t become a fight between us on the site.
For you to throw it into my face is intolerable.
you do it in a PM because you know you would be banned for saying what you say on the open forum. for you to act the way you do is intolerable. clean it up or move on.
Yep. Or start defending the liberal side, it would fit better.
BAIT POST ALERT.
Dude, there is no need for bait. Just saying, you do more harm to your "side" than good.
LOL your intention was not what you pretend.
You know I do not value your opinion so what were trying to accomplish? A little more passive aggressive rino stuff?
Bait post it was.
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
Well for instance ... i stated awhile ago that the “whistleblower” was a CIA spy connected to Joe Biden’s campaign - and worked with Biden in the white house ... accompanied the Bidens to Ukraine on Air Force 2.
That was reported by the washington examiner last night before the rally. Trump talked about it.
They were a CIA analyst. And if they weren't, what difference does it make? Aren't most people who work in the CIA spies?
And no way, someone in intelligence worked with the White House at some point? No way! Color me shocked!
This is the kind of ridiculous conspiracy theories you tout. You twist information to leap to conclusions that somehow EVERYONE is biased against Trump.
And yet when REAL NEWS occurs, like 2 Russians getting arrested for FELONIES for real pay to play schemes, you go silent. That Russians paid off a GOP Senator to have the ambassador to the Ukraine fired, you have no response. Because for you, the truth isn't nearly as interesting if it paints your team in a bad light, so you pretend it's fake news or doesn't exist.
You have no desire to let information come out first before judging guilt or innocence. You have a predetermined opinion on EVERYTHING and go looking for rumors and theories that support it.
It's painfully obvious to literally everyone your modus operandi. And you constantly lash out, chastise others for not buying the rumors and theories, and then act all insulted and blame everyone else for piling on you when you instigate plenty yourself.
It's comical how your behavior literally mimicks Trump's himself. Boo-hoo, everyone picks on me, damn liberals and media, wahhhwahhhwahh ...
A whistleblower in the intelligence community makes complaints to the Intelligence IG about the IG department. Not about the President.
And that is in addition to hearsay which isn’t allowed.
My response is let’s see the facts. I don’t know them. I do know the CIA has set Trump up a bunch falsely.
This one smells too.
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