Absolutely fucking shameful, disgraceful move by Trump.
Not one military adviser supports this. It has nothing to do with wanting our troops home, it DOES have everything to do with turning our backs on the same allies who defeated ISIS for US. We thanked the Kurds by letting Turkey roll on them and left them to slaughter.
This move doesn't benefit America in any way, allowing ISIS to restablish. It DOES benefit Turkey and Russia. Trump's oath to defend our country is a complete failure while he makes baffling foreign policy decisions that time after time mysteriously serve Russian interests.
Mattis - quit. Kelly - quit. McMaster - quit. All Generals, all Republicans, all left for the same reason as they could no longer support Trump's baffling decisions to aid Russians.
Wake up and smell the coffee Trump supporters. Trump is a national security threat and shattering our alliances with allies, all to the delight of Putin.
And for the record, my brother is deploying to his 3rd tour in a combat zone in the Middle East next week ... to serve a cowardly, treasonous piece of shit President who deserves a firing squad at this point.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
Absolutely fucking shameful, disgraceful move by Trump.
Not one military adviser supports this. It has nothing to do with wanting our troops home, it DOES have everything to do with turning our backs on the same allies who defeated ISIS for US. We thanked the Kurds by letting Turkey roll on them and left them to slaughter.
This move doesn't benefit America in any way, allowing ISIS to restablish. It DOES benefit Turkey and Russia. Trump's oath to defend our country is a complete failure while he makes baffling foreign policy decisions that time after time mysteriously serve Russian interests.
Mattis - quit. Kelly - quit. McMaster - quit. All Generals, all Republicans, all left for the same reason as they could no longer support Trump's baffling decisions to aid Russians.
Wake up and smell the coffee Trump supporters. Trump is a national security threat and shattering our alliances with allies, all to the delight of Putin.
And for the record, my brother is deploying to his 3rd tour in a combat zone in the Middle East next week ... to serve a cowardly, treasonous piece of shit President who deserves a firing squad at this point.
Military advisors are kinda like climate scientists. If there isnt a problem there isnt funding.
Something tells me they have evidence that some in America made huge money off Syria - and Trump called an end to losing our men and women for fraud.
Keep watching. Biden is done.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
Id like us to get out of every foreign war. Not our problem. Support the troops by bringing them home.
Really? How about the wars we triggered?
That's not even the core of it.
How about being part of global alliances to help countries in need and pledges to help police the world?
How about maintaining a balance and preventing another world war ESPECIALLY on American soil?
Anyway what do I know? It's only about us.
While we are at it should we stop selling to other countries and importing from other countries too?
I am sorry for coming out as brash but I really did not expect such a statement especially the bold.
P/S: Have we thought about making sure we are engaging in these wars for the right reasons?
We just showed up. We can just go home. Im sick of spending $1T/year on a military that outspends what the next 20 combined? Then you have to add in the human costs. Death, dismemberment, ptsd etc.
We are the Romans. We fight everywhere for everything and we’re spending at a rate that will bankrupt us in my life time.
Id be more open to this “support the troops” bullshit if everyone had a stake in it. Lets say The Turkish war is going to cost $100B per year. Thats like $300 extra each we should tax every man, woman and child in America. Thats just for this skirmish. We should issue a war tax for all the other wars as well.
You want to send a bunch of 18 year olds to die. Put some skin in the game instead of stealing it from our grandchildren. Once were actually paying for all this we’ll see if we’re willing to enter every foreign disagreement.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
Absolutely fucking shameful, disgraceful move by Trump.
Not one military adviser supports this. It has nothing to do with wanting our troops home, it DOES have everything to do with turning our backs on the same allies who defeated ISIS for US. We thanked the Kurds by letting Turkey roll on them and left them to slaughter.
This move doesn't benefit America in any way, allowing ISIS to restablish. It DOES benefit Turkey and Russia. Trump's oath to defend our country is a complete failure while he makes baffling foreign policy decisions that time after time mysteriously serve Russian interests.
Mattis - quit. Kelly - quit. McMaster - quit. All Generals, all Republicans, all left for the same reason as they could no longer support Trump's baffling decisions to aid Russians.
Wake up and smell the coffee Trump supporters. Trump is a national security threat and shattering our alliances with allies, all to the delight of Putin.
And for the record, my brother is deploying to his 3rd tour in a combat zone in the Middle East next week ... to serve a cowardly, treasonous piece of shit President who deserves a firing squad at this point.
a fucking men. This will be public dividing line for the GOP and the Trump GOP
Terrible timing by trump, it allows for classic Republicans to be in opposition of the President.
then again, this wasnt his decision alone. This reeks of geopolitical manuvering of other actors
Quote: @greediron said:
@ AGRforever said:
Id like us to get out of every foreign war. Not our problem. Support the troops by bringing them home.
Yup. Bring our troops home.
Yeah i remember y’all being super for it when Obama pulled troops home.
#MASSIVESTFUCKINGEYEROLLEVER!!!!
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
Absolutely fucking shameful, disgraceful move by Trump.
Not one military adviser supports this. It has nothing to do with wanting our troops home, it DOES have everything to do with turning our backs on the same allies who defeated ISIS for US. We thanked the Kurds by letting Turkey roll on them and left them to slaughter.
This move doesn't benefit America in any way, allowing ISIS to restablish. It DOES benefit Turkey and Russia. Trump's oath to defend our country is a complete failure while he makes baffling foreign policy decisions that time after time mysteriously serve Russian interests.
Mattis - quit. Kelly - quit. McMaster - quit. All Generals, all Republicans, all left for the same reason as they could no longer support Trump's baffling decisions to aid Russians.
Wake up and smell the coffee Trump supporters. Trump is a national security threat and shattering our alliances with allies, all to the delight of Putin.
And for the record, my brother is deploying to his 3rd tour in a combat zone in the Middle East next week ... to serve a cowardly, treasonous piece of shit President who deserves a firing squad at this point.
It just never sets in. You cannot reach them. Ya can’t. Seriously you can have the guy on tv saying exactly what the hell he is doing and they don’t believe it. It has to be some 16dimensional chess that he is playing or Hillary is controlling his brain with her super power shriek laugh or something. It is the absolute craziest thing I have ever seen in my life. Even in this thread where the guy who said he would never support trump... Who actually supports trump admits that this is a bit too far has to take a dig at democrats while doing it. Its KeRAzy KoOkOo LaND!
My god people faking the moon landing would be an easier job than tue democrats somehow making all of this shit happen while having the guy say he is doing it himself. Here’s the thing... At some point don’t you have to at least be curious if he has a reasonable defense other than “I won’t participate?” Against what? Biden did it? Unreal man. It is absolutely unreal. I know lifelong republicans that are like “yeah this fucker is dirty as hell” and it shows that around the country everyone is waking up. But here? Oh no here I am convinced we have a special kind of extra layered cranial calcium buildup.
Wow.
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
Something tells me they have evidence that some in America made huge money off Syria - and Trump called an end to losing our men and women for fraud.
Keep watching. Biden is done.
Seriously? Not this again. Why is everything a conspiracy? A few quick facts if you will agree those are even facts....
- The Syrian civil war started in 2011
- Obama was president in 2009
- Trump is bringing back about max 100 troops (50-100). There are over 1000 troops in Syria. So this is a far cry of "bringing troops home".
- Syrians killed over past four years is over 11000. US forces killed in that span? Six.
Everything is not about election. At sone point the human decency in us has to prevail.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ A1Janitor said:
Something tells me they have evidence that some in America made huge money off Syria - and Trump called an end to losing our men and women for fraud.
Keep watching. Biden is done.
Seriously? Not this again. Why is everything a conspiracy? A few quick facts if you will agree those are even facts....
- The Syrian civil war started in 2011
- Obama was president in 2009
- Trump is bringing back about max 100 troops (50-100). There are over 1000 troops in Syria. So this is a far cry of "bringing troops home".
- Syrians killed over past four years is over 11000. US forces killed in that span? Six.
Everything is not about election. At sone point the human decency in us has to prevail.
Exactly. I side with Rand Paul on this issue. Bring our troops home and stop contributing to killing of all these people. The war should end.
And Biden is done. It is horrible evidence against him. No conspiracy.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
Id like us to get out of every foreign war. Not our problem. Support the troops by bringing them home.
Really? How about the wars we triggered?
That's not even the core of it.
How about being part of global alliances to help countries in need and pledges to help police the world?
How about maintaining a balance and preventing another world war ESPECIALLY on American soil?
Anyway what do I know? It's only about us.
While we are at it should we stop selling to other countries and importing from other countries too?
I am sorry for coming out as brash but I really did not expect such a statement especially the bold.
P/S: Have we thought about making sure we are engaging in these wars for the right reasons?
We just showed up. We can just go home. Im sick of spending $1T/year on a military that outspends what the next 20 combined? Then you have to add in the human costs. Death, dismemberment, ptsd etc.
We are the Romans. We fight everywhere for everything and we’re spending at a rate that will bankrupt us in my life time.
Id be more open to this “support the troops” bullshit if everyone had a stake in it. Lets say The Turkish war is going to cost $100B per year. Thats like $300 extra each we should tax every man, woman and child in America. Thats just for this skirmish. We should issue a war tax for all the other wars as well.
You want to send a bunch of 18 year olds to die. Put some skin in the game instead of stealing it from our grandchildren. Once were actually paying for all this we’ll see if we’re willing to enter every foreign disagreement.
Are you equally sick of using military approved funds to build a useless wall for political gains?
How about people who have been using public office to enrich themselves? Does that make you sick too?
Oh how about the supposed tax cut that ballooned the deficit? Are you sick of that too?
While we are at it does the fact that some one skipped deployment with supposed "bone spurs" make you sick?
For the record, no one asked Trump to send 18 year olds to die. All he had to do was NOTHING. The situation is worse cos he did something...opened his mouth.
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