Time to seriously start talking about Zimmer.

[Mike Olson]

Beloved by fans, and reportedly by players (who aren’t kickers) the truth is that his teams are just not getting it done despite a very talented roster. in two road games this year his team has looked utterly clueless taking the field. The defense is the football version of Joe Mauer at the plate.... Waiting halfway through the at bat to take a swing. Watching what the opposing offense is going to do usually resulting in putting his own offense in a hole. The inexplicable clock management continues, ruined kicker and special teams disasters, and a whole host of problems that a team like this shouldn’t have. 

Maybe running a 1970’s style team in the modern era isn’t genius? Maybe it is holding this team back. 

It is frustrating watching this team spin its wheels, and watching pregame videos about how they are “learning to be champions” or whatever they are calling it.

In my opinion it is time for Zimmer to be shown the door.

[Guest]

They just never look prepared going into a game. They scramble around like they're trying to figure it out in the fly?

[Guest]

yawn

[Guest]

@greediron said:
yawn

So you like what we have done the last 5 years and support more of it in the future.

2 games against the division and the team looked like they had no idea what to do. 

If I repeatedly failed on the job and didn’t meet expectations I would be fired... 5 years of it and I wouldn’t be able to find someone to hire me in that role again.

[Guest]

Make an argument as to why he should remain the coach. I am open to discussion.

What has he done to deserve more time?

[Guest]

lets wait till after. the season. to consider this. making a. coaching change after week. 4.  is. not wise

[Guest]

@Mike Olson said:
Beloved by fans, and reportedly by players (who aren’t kickers) the truth is that his teams are just not getting it done despite a very talented roster. in two road games this year his team has looked utterly clueless taking the field. The defense is the football version of Joe Mauer at the plate.... Waiting halfway through the at bat to take a swing. Watching what the opposing offense is going to do usually resulting in putting his own offense in a hole. The inexplicable clock management continues, ruined kicker and special teams disasters, and a whole host of problems that a team like this shouldn’t have. 

Maybe running a 1970’s style team in the modern era isn’t genius? Maybe it is holding this team back. 

It is frustrating watching this team spin its wheels, and watching pregame videos about how they are “learning to be champions” or whatever they are calling it.

In my opinion it is time for Zimmer to be shown the door.

Do you stop with ZImmer?  or do you go higher up the ladder?   IMO Spielman has been as big of a drag on the offensive efforts as Zimmer and it was RS that hired Zim,  as well as RS that has signed off on everything Zim has done to date that has you wanting him fired.   I dont know that this is only a coaching issue as much as an organizational issue.

[Guest]

@Mike Olson said:
Make an argument as to why he should remain the coach. I am open to discussion.

What has he done to deserve more time?

My suspicion is that most of his supporters feel some form of, "He's way better than Frazier was!!" And that boils down to accepting a mediocre team for fear of having a very bad season or two.
It's interesting you say he is supposedly beloved by fans and players. I'm not sure about the fans, but I guess he has some appeal through his reputation as a tough-guy throwback. That might be only within a certain age group and mindset.
As for players, two thoughts -
1. The aforementioned Les Frazier was allegedly loved by his players. Bill Belichek is not.
2. I bet it's more than kickers who do not. Add QBs to that list.

[Guest]

Take your pick: How do you prefer to lose?

We get an "offensive guy" and our D sucks.

We get a "defensive guy" and our O sucks.

Zimmer has fielded some outstanding defenses during his tenure. He has done whatever he can to inject some "life" into a stagnant offense, while juggling O - coordinators, mediocre QB's, O line woes, RB injuries.  Tough to find a successful formula on offense without a "Franchise" type QB (Rodgers, Brees, Brady, etc.)  Granted, a player does not an entire team make, but the Rams without Donald?  Bears without Mack? 

Wanna draft a QB high....no guarantees they will pan out. 
Wanna go through Free Agency?  What franchise will let a LEGIT QB go (at ANY price)
Wanna try an aging Packer?  Pants on the ground

[Guest]

I agree it is time to look at replacing Zimmer.  Basically, if the Vikes don't make it to the second round of the playoffs, Zimmer should be gone. 

There are some basic red flags:

• Since Zimmer became coach, including playoffs, the Vikings are 13-28 against teams that had a winning record coming into the game.
• The team does not look prepared at the start of important games.
• The team seems to play down to the opponent when there is a second string or rookie quarterback,  No killer instinct.
• Zimmer still has some clock management issues.
• When was the last time you saw some wrinkle on defense or offense that you were impressed with?