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Skol Vikings!
#51
Quote: @KingBash said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@KingBash said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@KingBash said:
@greediron said:
LMAO, you are rich.  Telling others to educate themselves and stop and think.  Done engaging, just had to stop in for a laugh.
me too! So thank you! Love watching you guys spin this one. Didn't think you'd actually show up to try, but here you are! What loyal Trump cult members you are.
quit being a richard,  stay on point or just stay away.  your baiting is not going to be put up with,  this place is a shit show when that is allowed and I am not going to allow it to become that again or its just getting shut down completely.

you said you were done with this place... go away then.  if your existence on this site is simply for political OTs then I think you need to find a new playground.
Sorry I was right all along and you're all huffy now.
be civil or be quiet...  you can make all the points you want,  but the baiting and trolling isnt happening in here anymore.   


You're right: in light of this news coming out and me (and many others) being right, it's time to enforce the rules more.

Why am I not surprised?
its got nothing to do with this news,  and more to do with an overall degrade in the tone.  You know the rules,  if you choose to ignore them you wont be here, and neither will anybody else that chooses to ignore them.
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#52
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@KingBash said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@KingBash said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@KingBash said:
@greediron said:
LMAO, you are rich.  Telling others to educate themselves and stop and think.  Done engaging, just had to stop in for a laugh.
me too! So thank you! Love watching you guys spin this one. Didn't think you'd actually show up to try, but here you are! What loyal Trump cult members you are.
quit being a richard,  stay on point or just stay away.  your baiting is not going to be put up with,  this place is a shit show when that is allowed and I am not going to allow it to become that again or its just getting shut down completely.

you said you were done with this place... go away then.  if your existence on this site is simply for political OTs then I think you need to find a new playground.
Sorry I was right all along and you're all huffy now.
be civil or be quiet...  you can make all the points you want,  but the baiting and trolling isnt happening in here anymore.   


You're right: in light of this news coming out and me (and many others) being right, it's time to enforce the rules more.

Why am I not surprised?
its got nothing to do with this news,  and more to do with an overall degrade in the tone.  You know the rules,  if you choose to ignore them you wont be here, and neither will anybody else that chooses to ignore them.
Now if only the refs in Lambblow officiated a game the same way!!!
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#53
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@BlackMagic7 said:
Where is the part in the transcript where Trump tells Zelenskyy that he won't see a dime of the $250 million appropriated by Congress unless he cooperates?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-and-the-warping-of-democratic-governance/2019/09/21/3df51c22-dc7b-11e9-ac63-3016711543fe_story.html

Meanwhile, during this period, $250 million in military assistance for Ukraine, money appropriated by Congress, was, for a time, held up. Was that directly connected to Trump’s efforts to pressure the Ukrainians? That question also remains unanswered.

Why would the author of the article even position Trump as "pressuring" Ukraine, when apparently now, they are obviously in bed together? Something will stick, damn it... 
I read the "transcript" what we don't know is if that was exactly as it happened or not?  The WH admitted that its not verbatim. 

But there isn't a do this or else $250M threat in whats been released.  This is nothing more then another in the long line of weekly "were gonna get him now!!!" articles that the left has been parroting ever since she lost. 
You don't need an offer of quid pro quo to cross the lines of ethical and legal issues by asking for a foreign nation to investigate a political opponent.

And seriously, we have to point this out AGAIN after the shit he pulled with Russia and their interference in the last election?


Is there no Republican who can't just admit "hey this is fucked up and wrong"?  That besides being illegal, we shouldn't be asking foreign leaders to get dirt on our political opponents during elections??


I guess it's party over country until proven otherwise ...
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#54
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@AGRforever said:
@BlackMagic7 said:
Where is the part in the transcript where Trump tells Zelenskyy that he won't see a dime of the $250 million appropriated by Congress unless he cooperates?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-and-the-warping-of-democratic-governance/2019/09/21/3df51c22-dc7b-11e9-ac63-3016711543fe_story.html

Meanwhile, during this period, $250 million in military assistance for Ukraine, money appropriated by Congress, was, for a time, held up. Was that directly connected to Trump’s efforts to pressure the Ukrainians? That question also remains unanswered.

Why would the author of the article even position Trump as "pressuring" Ukraine, when apparently now, they are obviously in bed together? Something will stick, damn it... 
I read the "transcript" what we don't know is if that was exactly as it happened or not?  The WH admitted that its not verbatim. 

But there isn't a do this or else $250M threat in whats been released.  This is nothing more then another in the long line of weekly "were gonna get him now!!!" articles that the left has been parroting ever since she lost. 
You don't need an offer of quid pro quo to cross the lines of ethical and legal issues by asking for a foreign nation to investigate a political opponent.

And seriously, we have to point this out AGAIN after the shit he pulled with Russia and their interference in the last election?


Is there no Republican who can't just admit "hey this is fucked up and wrong"?  That besides being illegal, we shouldn't be asking foreign leaders to get dirt on our political opponents during elections??


I guess it's party over country until proven otherwise ...
plenty say it,  but you wouldnt listen because then you wouldnt be able to say your party over country line as you storm away in disgust.

I said above if he is guilty as it sounds then he should be prosecuted and convicted.
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#57
Quote: @Mike Olson said:
Man this story is moving fast now....

Acting DNI threatens to resign if not allowed to speak freely to congress...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/acting-director-of-national-intelligence-threatened-to-resign-if-he-couldnt-speak-freely-before-congress/2019/09/25/b1deb71e-dfbf-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html
any day now we should see the smoking gun then?
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#58
I'm asking where the Quid Pro Quo part is because it was supposedly the teeth of these accusations - KBs OP article paints a scornful president bullying Ukraine into complying by withholding a Congressionally approved $250 million dollars in military aid. It was the "there, there."

He didn't say that and the president of Ukraine seems to like him?!
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#59
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@AGRforever said:
@BlackMagic7 said:
Where is the part in the transcript where Trump tells Zelenskyy that he won't see a dime of the $250 million appropriated by Congress unless he cooperates?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-and-the-warping-of-democratic-governance/2019/09/21/3df51c22-dc7b-11e9-ac63-3016711543fe_story.html

Meanwhile, during this period, $250 million in military assistance for Ukraine, money appropriated by Congress, was, for a time, held up. Was that directly connected to Trump’s efforts to pressure the Ukrainians? That question also remains unanswered.

Why would the author of the article even position Trump as "pressuring" Ukraine, when apparently now, they are obviously in bed together? Something will stick, damn it... 
I read the "transcript" what we don't know is if that was exactly as it happened or not?  The WH admitted that its not verbatim. 

But there isn't a do this or else $250M threat in whats been released.  This is nothing more then another in the long line of weekly "were gonna get him now!!!" articles that the left has been parroting ever since she lost. 
You don't need an offer of quid pro quo to cross the lines of ethical and legal issues by asking for a foreign nation to investigate a political opponent.

And seriously, we have to point this out AGAIN after the shit he pulled with Russia and their interference in the last election?


Is there no Republican who can't just admit "hey this is fucked up and wrong"?  That besides being illegal, we shouldn't be asking foreign leaders to get dirt on our political opponents during elections??


I guess it's party over country until proven otherwise ...
Now thats funny!!!  You think theres an ethical bone in any politician from either side. Theyre all corrupt as fuck both team red and blue.  And no I have no problem asking another country to investigate why a coruption scandal got pushed under the rug and abruptly cancled when Joe Biden was a sitting VP.  Esspecially when its the payment to his son thats in question. 

Why wasnt it a problem for you when team hillary used British intelligence via the Steele dosier to get the wire tap on Trump tower for political espionoage?  What exactly is the difference?  

And at the end of the day, I stand by my statement that Trump could carve a live baby like a Thanks Giving Turkey on live TV with commentary and youre not going to get a 2/3s vote in the Senate. This is pointless other then when you inevitably win back the Presidency in 2020 but lose the house in 2022 that you should expect whomever represents team blue to face the same BS backlash from the Republicans. This is nothing more then political theater. 

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#60

Quote: @greediron said:
any day now we should see the smoking gun then?
We saw it this morning when they released the transcript. It was such a small poof of smoke that nobody even noticed it. Theres nothing there. This is just another “we finally got him” moment for the Dems. Theyve been saying theyve got him for three years. 
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