Well that didnt take long. I dont give a rats behind if it is a AP story, the source is BS. MSNBC Lawrance Odonnel, the of the biggest Trump haters broke the story last night. Here is what he is saying today.
Last night I made an error in judgment by reporting an item about the president’s finances that didn’t go through our rigorous verification and standards process. I shouldn’t have reported it and I was wrong to discuss it on the air.
In his report good ole Larry said it was from one source from Deutche Bank that personally told him that Trump had co signers in order to get the loans and those co signers were Russians. To give Larry credit he did say if this is true TWICE, but yet still reported it. Just like the Oregonean (not a progressive paper at all) and the AP making a story out of it.
This has been my point the whole time these BS stories need to stop for the countries good. If there is evidence that Trump colluded or is in the Russians pocket, then fine impeach him, arrest him, throw him in prison that is where he would belong but until then stop the crazyness.
Quote: @KingBash said:
@ Purple Haze said:
All Im saying is it doesnt matter if you are a Trump supporter or not, the absolute Trump Derangement Syndrome has to stop. If 19 Obama/Clinton Lawyers, all the Trump hating members of the FBI which had every govt resource at their disposal, all the congressional investigations cannot find evidence of collusion with Russia or anything else they are investigating then its time to move on. You cant just keep throwing crap up against the wall and hope something sticks like this rawstory site is attempting.
He's colluded with Russians, who helped steal the election = Trump Derangement Syndrome
No, he's just an absolute joke of a president. Hands down the worst president we've ever had. Nobody else even comes close.
His Twitter alone is impeachable. He's just so incredibly fucking incompetent and unfit for this office.
WOW Bash !!!
From the NY Times Story about Russian Hacking:
Even today, after a two-and-a-half-year investigation, the committee conceded that “Russian intentions regarding U.S. election infrastructure remain unclear.” Moscow’s intelligence agencies — chiefly the G.R.U., Russia’s main military intelligence unit — may have “intended to exploit vulnerabilities in the election infrastructure during the 2016 elections and, for unknown reasons, decided not to execute those options.”
It concluded that while there was no evidence that any votes were changed in actual voting machines, “Russian cyberactors were in a position to delete or change voter data”
Those finding are from the Senate Intellegence committee. You can hate the man all you want but just wanting the man to be guilty or thinking he is guilty dos not make it so. I love how every claim that comes about every day is the absolute truth with the Trump haters. At the same time James Comey had a press conference and laid out stone cold facts that Hillary had deleted emails, thta he had classified and secret documents on her private server and he went on and on. Heres Comeys testimoney to Congress:
Gowdy: Good morning, Director Comey. Secretary Clinton said she never sent or received any classified information over her private e-mail, was that true?
Comey: Our investigation found that there was classified information sent.
Gowdy: It was not true?
Comey: That’s what I said.
Gowdy: OK. Well, I’m looking for a shorter answer so you and I are not here quite as long. Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails sent or received. Was that true?
Comey: That’s not true. There were a small number of portion markings on I think three of the documents.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said “I did not e-mail any classified information to anyone on my e-mail there was no classified material.” That is true?
Comey: There was classified information emailed.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton used one device, was that true?
Comey: She used multiple devices during the four years of her term as Secretary of State.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said all work related emails were returned to the State Department. Was that true?
Comey: No. We found work related email, thousands, that were not returned.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said neither she or anyone else deleted work related emails from her personal account.
Comey: That’s a harder one to answer. We found traces of work related emails in — on devices or in space. Whether they were deleted or when a server was changed out something happened to them, there’s no doubt that the work related emails that were removed electronically from the email system.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the emails and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the email content individually?
Comey: No.
Gowdy: Well, in the interest of time and because I have a plane to catch tomorrow afternoon, I’m not going to go through any more of the false statements but I am going to ask you to put on your old hat. Faults exculpatory statements are used for what?
Comey: Well, either for a substantive prosecution or evidence of intent in a criminal prosecution.
Gowdy: Exactly. Intent and consciousness of guilt, right?
Comey: That is right?
Every Trump hater believes Hillary did nothing wrong but every Trump accusation is true. And you say TDS isnt real.
Nah, just wait. More to come out.
Meanwhile, enjoy this convict doing this:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/28/trump-promised-pardons-to-get-border-wall-built-before-election-report.html
He should be placed in the stocks with tomatoes hurled at him.
Also - as far as "fake news", Lawrence O'Donnell responsibly came out and offered a clarification, and more will come tonight. That's what a responsible journalist does. Not State TV Fox News. They'd just double down.
Having said that, I guarantee there is damning, damning evidence in what Deusche Bank holds.
EDIT: Wait, now that I've had the time to sit down and read the reason for the retraction (busy work day):
Quote:The about-face came shortly after an attorney for Trump and the Trump Organization sent a letter to NBC demanding the network "immediately and prominently" retract and apologize for what the attorney described as "false and defamatory" reporting.
O'Donnell on Tuesday night offered his audience an explosive story on Trump's finances -- a story he later stressed came from a single source, that NBC had not verified, and that would "require a lot more verification" to be confirmed as fact.
So just like how he's kept his tax returns private, his grades, ANYTHING negative about him coming to light... he involved his fucking lawyers trying to throw more dirt on the story hoping it goes away.
Yeah, sounds like fake news! Hahahahaha you fucking rubes. Enjoy your cult.
Quote: @Purple Haze said:
Every Trump hater believes Hillary did nothing wrong but every Trump accusation is true. And you say TDS isnt real.
No, I think Hillary is an absolute criminal. But she's gone, you obsessed lunatic. She lost. Who cares about her anymore?
Please sue lawrence Odonell! I would just LOVE to see Trump sue Lawrence! Please make this happen!!!!!
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
@ mblack said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ mblack said:
@ A1Janitor said:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-lawrence-odonnell-error-judgment-trump-russia-report
Fake news. Apology by NBC.
Is it really though? It very well could end up being fake news but the appology is not about the content. It's about the verification process (he had only one source).
This stuff has really become old...
On one side there are those that latch onto any and everything to discredit Trump and then on the other there are those that defend Trump at any cost no matter what length.
Just to be clear, I can't stand him and think he has/is setting democracy, human discourse and decency back to the "dark ages".
Trump’s lawyers said nobody guaranteed his loans. Public records can prove it or not.
After all they did to investigate him - they either can prove it or not. Reporting unverified shit is stupid.
Until verified, it is unsubstantiated gossip. The ball is not in Trump’s court to prove. Prove it or drop
it. At the bold...You are right. Now can we apply the same standard to Trump? Or he does not need to drop his lies even when many have proven countless times that he is lying?
What lies? Name them and show me proof.
I'll start:
Obama wasn't born in America. He is a Muslim born in Kenya. His birth certificate is fake.
Later retracted by Trump himself.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ mblack said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ mblack said:
@ A1Janitor said:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-lawrence-odonnell-error-judgment-trump-russia-report
Fake news. Apology by NBC.
Is it really though? It very well could end up being fake news but the appology is not about the content. It's about the verification process (he had only one source).
This stuff has really become old...
On one side there are those that latch onto any and everything to discredit Trump and then on the other there are those that defend Trump at any cost no matter what length.
Just to be clear, I can't stand him and think he has/is setting democracy, human discourse and decency back to the "dark ages".
Trump’s lawyers said nobody guaranteed his loans. Public records can prove it or not.
After all they did to investigate him - they either can prove it or not. Reporting unverified shit is stupid.
Until verified, it is unsubstantiated gossip. The ball is not in Trump’s court to prove. Prove it or drop
it. At the bold...You are right. Now can we apply the same standard to Trump? Or he does not need to drop his lies even when many have proven countless times that he is lying?
What lies? Name them and show me proof.
I'll start:
Obama wasn't born in America. He is a Muslim born in Kenya. His birth certificate is fake.
Later retracted by Trump himself.
Show me the proof?
And for the sake of being a gentleman in the campaign, he dropped it. Doesn’t mean he was born in US.
But he didn’t lie about it. A lie is knowing you are wrong. I haven’t seen any evidence he knew he was wrong when he said it. But will be willing to see your evidence.
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-lawrence-odonnell-error-judgment-trump-russia-report
Fake news. Apology by NBC.
Sheesh....didn't even last one news cycle. At least "Amazonia burning cuz MMGW" made it through one news cycle.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@ Purple Haze said:
All Im saying is it doesnt matter if you are a Trump supporter or not, the absolute Trump Derangement Syndrome has to stop. If 19 Obama/Clinton Lawyers, all the Trump hating members of the FBI which had every govt resource at their disposal, all the congressional investigations cannot find evidence of collusion with Russia or anything else they are investigating then its time to move on. You cant just keep throwing crap up against the wall and hope something sticks like this rawstory site is attempting.
It's now an AP Press story.
The Oregonian is the largest newspaper in Oregon. Now shush about "it's a rawstory site blah blah blah".
https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2019/0...ium=social&utm_campaign=theoregonian_sf&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1etlrPzel1hpRuRLZCHk4o8EkxR6RAr3_MIkXL2peROiLfPgisQbYqhlc
Of course the AP ran with it (ODonnells single-sourced anonymous claim, couched 3 times by...."if true").
Well, shoot... Journalism 101 sez "run with it" if an opinion hack "has something" on Trump.
Must be nice to have a sycophantic press on your side.
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I'll just leave this here while I go take yet another victory lap.
=)
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Please sue lawrence Odonell! I would just LOVE to see Trump sue Lawrence! Please make this happen!!!!!
POTUS Trump, prolly won't. Too many first amendment hurdles.
Personally, I think it would be a mistake...but I have ultimate faith in Jay Sekulow, Trump's personal lawyer.
But the "Trump Organization" is a different entity. (By legal statute, btw)
And this (ODonnell libel) was an affront to the "Trump Organization".
(As GreedIron posted above...this bombshell "info" has been public information, for years)
Wholly different legal entities. And this (ODonnell libel) was an attack on the Trump organization as much as Trump, himself.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/eric-trump...gal-action
Eric Trump: Trump Organization taking legal action over MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell's 'reckless attempt to slander family'Eric Trump vowed that the Trump Organization will take legal action against MSNBC and Lawrence O'Donnell after the left-leaning host aired a singled-sourced, unverified reportthat President Trump had loans co-signed by Russian oligarchs.
"This was a reckless attempt to slander our family and smear a great company. Apologies are not enough when the true intent was solely to damage and cause harm. As a company, we will be taking legal action. This unethical behavior has to stop. @Lawrence @MSNBC," Eric Trump tweeted Wednesday night.
The threat of legal action came after the MSNBC host apologized earlier in the evening for what he called an “error in judgment” during his show on Tuesday night.
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