Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ mgobluevikes said:
Meanwhile, we give up a 5th rd. pick for a kicker that the "professional" coaching staff doesn't seem to even have a clue what he's good at...
Or the guy is good enough to do both and they are trying to figure out if he should replace Bailey or Wile... since neither have secured their spot on the team yet.
Or they have a clear idea (already) who'll they'll keep, yet "stall" the cuts as to not unnecessarily benefit other teams. (Bears)
But I get M-Go's point.
When asked why he used 3rd string QB Jarrett Stidham with the 2's instead of backup QB Brian Hoyer, Bill Belichick said “Yeah, we do what we think is best for the team, take a look at everybody,” Belichick said. “Brian’s played a lot of football.”
Idiot. Kids a rookie. What if he makes a mistake?
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@ Wetlander said:
@ mgobluevikes said:
Meanwhile, we give up a 5th rd. pick for a kicker that the "professional" coaching staff doesn't seem to even have a clue what he's good at...
Or the guy is good enough to do both and they are trying to figure out if he should replace Bailey or Wile... since neither have secured their spot on the team yet.
Or they have a clear idea (already) who'll they'll keep, yet "stall" the cuts as to not unnecessarily benefit other teams. (Bears)
But I get M-Go's point.
Keep Bailey and cut Wile...Bailey can kick the field goals/extra points. The new guy can do the punting/kick-offs. If Bailey starts to struggle, at least you can now bring in a fresh leg to help out.
Quote: @Jor-El said:
or he will continue to impress and Zimmer and RS will be embarrassed....
ŔS doesn't decide who's where on the Depth Chart. If he did there wouldn't be a single Coach in the League willing to work for him. Period.
This notion that Sloter is comparable to Brad Johnson is laughable.
Brad was fighting for 1st String QB at FSU during that run of like 10 straight Top 5 Seasons. He started against the Canes in Miami.
You can't even remotely compare Sloter's college pedigree to Brad's in terms of preparing for an NFL career. Brad was quite literally light years ahead of Kyle from a developmental prospective. There has to be a better analogy, though I'm having a hard time thinking of one since Kyle's background is so unique.
Think about this: the things Kyle is struggling with are fundamentals that most guys already have down due to a ton of snaps taken.
Throwing him out against better competition isn't going to help him learn how to do the little things right. On the contrary, he'd doubtlessly be spending more time thinking about the increased level of player he's facing instead of focusing on getting everyone lined up right, monitoring the Game Clock, reading the Defense, etc.
If you have an Outfielder in AA Ball that catches everything that comes his way but consistently misses the cutoff man and sometimes forgets how many outs there are would you promote him to AAA Ball or keep him where he's at and help him master the nuances of the game?
Quote: @FSUVike said:
ŔS doesn't decide who's where on the Depth Chart. If he did there wouldn't be a single Coach in the League willing to work for him. Period.
This notion that Sloter is comparable to Brad Johnson is laughable.
Brad was fighting for 1st String QB at FSU during that run of like 10 straight Top 5 Seasons. He started against the Canes in Miami.
You can't even remotely compare Sloter's college pedigree to Brad's in terms of preparing for an NFL career. Brad was quite literally light years ahead of Kyle from a developmental prospective. There has to be a better analogy, though I'm having a hard time thinking of one since Kyle's background is so unique.
Think about this: the things Kyle is struggling with are fundamentals that most guys already have down due to a ton of snaps taken.
Throwing him out against better competition isn't going to help him learn how to do the little things right. On the contrary, he'd doubtlessly be spending more time thinking about the increased level of player he's facing instead of focusing on getting everyone lined up right, monitoring the Game Clock, reading the Defense, etc.
If you have an Outfielder in AA Ball that catches everything that comes his way but consistently misses the cutoff man and sometimes forgets how many outs there are would you promote him to AAA Ball or keep him where he's at and help him master the nuances of the game?
can you show me these plays where he is consistently behind the clock (more so than any QB is, remember KC burned a TO last game as well IIRC) or how about the defense confusing him, (seems to me if he wasnt able to read defenses he wouldnt be nearly as successful or would have more turnovers to his credit) or the offense being in disarray and Sloter not being able to get people lined up? I mean after 2.5 years of pre season games there should be ample examples of his ineptness. I know what the coaches are saying, we as fans just havent seen it, at least not any more so than the QBs ahead of him.
And RS may not decided who plays and when, but he is the GM who is ultimately going to lose his job if good players are cut and inferior players are retained.
Quote: @FSUVike said:
ŔS doesn't decide who's where on the Depth Chart. If he did there wouldn't be a single Coach in the League willing to work for him. Period.
This notion that Sloter is comparable to Brad Johnson is laughable.
Brad was fighting for 1st String QB at FSU during that run of like 10 straight Top 5 Seasons. He started against the Canes in Miami.
You can't even remotely compare Sloter's college pedigree to Brad's in terms of preparing for an NFL career. Brad was quite literally light years ahead of Kyle from a developmental prospective. There has to be a better analogy, though I'm having a hard time thinking of one since Kyle's background is so unique.
Think about this: the things Kyle is struggling with are fundamentals that most guys already have down due to a ton of snaps taken.
Throwing him out against better competition isn't going to help him learn how to do the little things right. On the contrary, he'd doubtlessly be spending more time thinking about the increased level of player he's facing instead of focusing on getting everyone lined up right, monitoring the Game Clock, reading the Defense, etc.
If you have an Outfielder in AA Ball that catches everything that comes his way but consistently misses the cutoff man and sometimes forgets how many outs there are would you promote him to AAA Ball or keep him where he's at and help him master the nuances of the game?
This. I've made the case that Sloter hasn't always been a college QB, he was a WR. Developmentally, he's incredibly raw even now. And the thing lost by the fans is there's nothing the organization would love more than for Sloter to be successful. Its not some conspiracy or idiocy by Zimmer. But this is what happens when somebody does well in preseason with some fans: they can't get past it, even though there are a thousand stories over the years of players that light it up in preseason and don't even make rosters come September.
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