05-22-2019, 08:07 PM 
		
	
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					Spielman Comes In As Roto's 7th Best GM
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		05-22-2019, 08:11 PM 
		
	 ...puts on waders... cuz it's about to get deep in here. 
		
		
		05-22-2019, 08:12 PM 
		
	 
		
		
		05-22-2019, 08:35 PM 
		
	 I'd put him in the top 5.  
		
		
		05-22-2019, 09:33 PM 
		
	 look out—I see a storm brewing in New Jersey. 
		
		
		05-22-2019, 11:50 PM 
		
	 Batten down the hatches---gonna be a real noreastern 
		
		
		05-23-2019, 01:50 AM 
		
	 Ok I will bite). I think he has done a good job overall, but the lack of postseason success would put him in the 12-15 range. 
		
		
		05-23-2019, 01:39 PM 
		
	 Quote: @kmillard said:This would be my take too...Too few post-season wins, bare trophy cupboard. I'm way beyond winning the North providing me much satisfaction. Now the Wilfs? As an ownership group what they've done is pretty fantastic... 
		
		
		05-23-2019, 01:51 PM 
		
	 For what it's worth. 7 is my lucky number. 
		
		
		05-23-2019, 03:31 PM 
		
	 Quote: @kmillard said:I think it's possible to evaluate players, coaches, employees, presidents, etc without using metrics that involve hundreds of other contributing factors. If Zimmer doesn't get out-coached in Philly and Zimmer wins a Super Bowl does that make Spielman a better GM? Not in my opinion. Not as much as, say, hitting on players like TJ Clemmings and Willie Beavers would have, for example. Is Eli Manning a better QB than Dan Marino because he won two Super Bowls compared to Marino's zero? No. There is literally no one who would make that argument. Was Jerry Rice a better receiver than Randy Moss because of his wins? No. He just wasn't. Context. Contributing factors. Likewise, I think you can evaluate GMs separate from wins and losses. No Super Bowl victory would turn Alex Boone into a good acquisition. No off year is going to turn Xavier Rhodes into a bad acquisition. And based on a balance of hits and misses over the years, he fares pretty well IMO. | 
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