OT: Jussie Smollett

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Charles Barkley said if the guy wanted to get asaulted he should have just taken a walk in Liam Neeson’s neighborhood.  B)

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@Kentis said:
Charles Barkley said if the guy wanted to get asaulted he should have just taken a walk in Liam Neeson’s neighborhood.  B)

He was having a great time with that whole segment.

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@MaroonBells said:

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Fair post, so I will only take issue with your questioning the need for hate crime laws. The reason they have tougher consequences is because they target a group of people. They have impact on an entire community, an entire country if left unchecked.

For example, if I shoot someone because cut me off in traffic it doesn't impact the community or law enforcement as much as if I shot him because he's gay or black or Jewish or Muslim. Am I an extremist? Am I involved with some sort of group planning additional attacks? Are like-minded members of the community going to be inspired by what I did? It's a lot like terrorism. If someone blows up a building because he was fired that won't (nor should it) draw the same response from law enforcement as if he blew it up because he admires ISIS. The line is blurred. What Dylann Roof did. Was that a hate crime or domestic terrorism? Both maybe? Doesn't really matter. Both have higher consequences for the exact same reason. 

And those who argue that hate crimes don't work in reverse, they do. There was a group of black kids recently who were prosecuted for a hate crime after they beat up a white kid.

Just curious about your thought processes, do you view
Jussie Smollet’s crime as a hate crime, where he’s filled with hate for a group
and tried to attack that group of people with false accusations?  Is his accusations more or less threatening
than someone painting a swastika on a building?  This is a pretty big impact to the community and country.

I think it could be argued that it is. The worst part of what he did is that he made "white victimization," the bullshit narrative written by white nationalists and made it appear legitimate. Bigots everywhere are celebrating this. He owes every victim of a hate crime an apology. Too many people in this country want to argue that racism just isn't a thing anymore, or that it's OK to beat up gay kids or harrass Muslims. He should go right to fucking jail and they can throw away the key as far as I'm concerned. 

I love your even-keeled sane response on this...
Exaggerate much?

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@Kentis said:
Charles Barkley said if the guy wanted to get asaulted he should have just taken a walk in Liam Neeson’s neighborhood.  B)

What is the connection with Liam's neighborhood?  I don't follow big or small stars so apparently something relevant...  :-)

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@IDVikingfan said:

@Kentis said:
Charles Barkley said if the guy wanted to get asaulted he should have just taken a walk in Liam Neeson’s neighborhood.  B)

What is the connection with Liam's neighborhood?  I don't follow big or small stars so apparently something relevant...  :-)

Nevermind, I read the news on google...

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@minny65 said:
Yea, I have heard more about this Smollet thing then the Coast Guard nut-job who was planning an attack.  I also haven't seen much media on the Voting fraud that took place in North Carolina.  The media does need to do a better job of reporting for sure!

The thing that kills me is Harris stating he's in favor of a new election after the inconsistencies and illegal behavior of his paid absentee election procurreer sp?

Hell yes he's in favor of a do-over (he's hoping they look the other way so he can go back to robbing the public teat.)

They need to keep digging and if they find evidence of knowledge of the crime the SOB should be banned for life to old office and surrender and future benefits.

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@MaroonBells said:

@minny65 said:
Yea, I have heard more about this Smollet thing then the Coast Guard nut-job who was planning an attack.  I also haven't seen much media on the Voting fraud that took place in North Carolina.  The media does need to do a better job of reporting for sure!

...and that's exactly my point. Like I said, bigots everywhere love this Smollet thing. I haven't paid much attention to the news lately, but I'm guessing this is all over right wing media, yeah? Of course it is. It supports what they've been saying all along: "White American Males are the REAL victims."

So...damn... close.  

Find me a "white american males are the REAL victims" post.  On these pages. You can't/won't.

If "we bigots" LOVE anything, we love seeing the conventional wisdom (Trump MAGA hate) being up-ended, for all to see. 

We warned you it wasn't true.   We cautioned against false prophets.  You didn't listen. 

Jussie is your bed.  Sweet dreams. 

 

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@MaroonBells said:

@minny65 said:
Yea, I have heard more about this Smollet thing then the Coast Guard nut-job who was planning an attack.  I also haven't seen much media on the Voting fraud that took place in North Carolina.  The media does need to do a better job of reporting for sure!

...and that's exactly my point. Like I said, bigots everywhere love this Smollet thing. I haven't paid much attention to the news lately, but I'm guessing this is all over right wing media, yeah? Of course it is. It supports what they've been saying all along: "White American Males are the REAL victims."

Meanwhile, Coast Guard what nationalist who wanted to "kill every last person on earth" is back page stuff. 

Smollet himself made this a big story.  That was pretty much his entire goal, right?  So now that it blows up in his face, complaints about how much coverage it's receiving?  Really?