Get Me Roger Stone

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@Mike Olson said:
We haven't even gotten to this yet...... Amazing that this isn't the big news today:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019...ruled.html

Professional son-in-law Jared Kushner’s winding road to getting top secret clearance was helped along by a Trump-installed administration official who overruled two career White House security specialists that had rejected Kushner’s application, NBC News reports. Even more disturbing was that Kushner’s application was reportedly one of at least 30 cases that Trump’s pick to head the personnel security office of the Executive Office of the President intervened to overrule rejected security clearance applications for incoming Trump officials. In the three years prior, NBC News notes, only one application had been overruled by the director of the personnel security office.

That's the real bombshell - smells like treason to me.   I never understood how in the world does Kushner make 80 mistakes on his Top Secret security clearance application, and despite all his lies and his "oops I forgot I had foreign business connections with so & so" and him being deeply, deeply in debt ... he still gets cleared for Top Secret?   My brother has Top Secret security clearance in the military, and the biggest 2 factors that disqualify you from getting it:  1) contacts with foreign agents, governments, banks   2) a heavy amount of debt.   Kushner has BOTH.


Stone should be behind bars, if only for the fact he's a grown man with a Tramp-Stamp of Nixon tattooed on his back - somehow I don't think his new cellmate will find it so cute when he's got Stone bent over his jail cot.

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@purplefaithful said:
I'm starting to wax nostalgic for the Nixon Admin again lol!! 

Honestly, I don't think ol' Tricky Dicky would even be a blip on the radar compared to most of his successors.

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I was always told that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover. But sometimes...can't you just tell? I mean this guy looks like a villain in a batman movie. Like yeah, THIS is a guy you can trust....

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Yall enjoying the circle that you're jerking in?........
Stone is a class one asshole but the guy is no more guilty of lying to investigators then many on both sides of the aisle have been doing for years and years.  Its like the Packers vs Vikings OL holding.  Only one team gets called for it. 

Riddle me this circle of jerkers?  If this wasn't a political stunt by DOJ/Muller why did they contact CNN ahead of time to film 29 special agents with:
"There were 17 vehicles with their lights going, including two armored
vehicles in the front yard," Stone said. "I live on a canal. They had
pulled two amphibious units with frog men up to the back gate. ... The
entire back of the house was surrounded by agents, all of them
brandishing sidearms and assault rifles."
All this to a house of a guy without a firearm.  No passport.  No history of avoiding justice and one that had been cooperating with authorities to date.  DOJ did this to make dang sure it made it onto your TV's morning show.  Stone's comment:

"They want to intimidate me. And they want to poison the jury pool. They treated me like El Chapo"

Is False, they came with nearly double for Stone.  It only took 17 agents to arrest El Chapo.  Even less of Osama Bin Laden. 

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@AGRforever said:

Yall enjoying the circle that you're jerking in?........
Stone is a class one asshole but the guy is no more guilty of lying to investigators then many on both sides of the aisle have been doing for years and years.  Its like the Packers vs Vikings OL holding.  Only one team gets called for it. 

Riddle me this circle of jerkers?  If this wasn't a political stunt by DOJ/Muller why did they contact CNN ahead of time to film 29 special agents with:
"There were 17 vehicles with their lights going, including two armored
vehicles in the front yard," Stone said. "I live on a canal. They had
pulled two amphibious units with frog men up to the back gate. ... The
entire back of the house was surrounded by agents, all of them
brandishing sidearms and assault rifles."
All this to a house of a guy without a firearm.  No passport.  No history of avoiding justice and one that had been cooperating with authorities to date.  DOJ did this to make dang sure it made it onto your TV's morning show.  Stone's comment:

"They want to intimidate me. And they want to poison the jury pool. They treated me like El Chapo"

Is False, they came with nearly double for Stone.  It only took 17 agents to arrest El Chapo.  Even less of Osama Bin Laden. 

Maybe the FBI wanted to send a message. Who knows? HERE'S a guy who says it wasn't unusual at all.

I just think it's funny that it took a white guy who wasn't shot in the back for Fox and Friends to care about excessive force used by law enforcement. 

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@suncoastvike said:
Now can I pop my popcorn Mike?
  

For what?  He was out at noon and on Hannity at 6.  Do you eat popcorn during Hannity? 
Another indictment, another process crime, and further proof of no collusion, btw. From the Never-Trump NRO >> https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/r...onspiracy/

@SFVikeFan said:
Stone should be behind bars, if only for the fact he's a grown man with a Tramp-Stamp of Nixon tattooed on his back - somehow I don't think his new cellmate will find it so cute when he's got Stone bent over his jail cot.

Interesting.  Homosexual sex/tats ID  is rooted in anger, eh?   Thought it twas Diversity!  
Odd observation from a lib from SF?  (I've asked previously if SF is short for San Fran or Sioux Falls >> non-responsive)

Homophobia cool as long as you hate Trump.  Gotcha.  

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/statu...2689308672

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@AGRforever said:

Yall enjoying the circle that you're jerking in?........
Stone is a class one asshole but the guy is no more guilty of lying to investigators then many on both sides of the aisle have been doing for years and years.  Its like the Packers vs Vikings OL holding.  Only one team gets called for it.  

"If Stone lied under oath to Congress as Mueller alleges, then by all means prosecute him to the fullest.

But what exactly are the federal criteria that adjudicate when and where lying under oath to Congress or to federal authorities is a prosecutable crime? Is it perceived useful only in Robert Muller’s hunt for incriminating evidence against Trump, as in the case of Michael Flynn?
After all, nearly the entire Obama administration intelligence hierarchy not only lied under oath to Congress, but in some cases confessed to such.

None were indicted, certainly not the ubiquitous current pundit James Clapper, former director of National Intelligence, who in 2014 flat out lied under oath about NSA domestic surveillance on Americans. When caught, he confessed that he had given the “least untruthful answer.”.Will Stone use that rejoinder?
Not John Brennan who in 2014 lied under oath that the CIA he directed had not tapped in to Senate staff computers. And in 2011 he earlier had lied when he publicly asserted that there had been not a single instance of collateral killing by drone. And he has likely further lied in his current assertions about his own knowledge of the Steele dossier and its odyssey from government circles to the media.
Not James Comey. To a joint congressional committee, while under oath, on 245 occasions he infamously claimed he either did not know or could not remember, and he seemed mostly to consider the questioning a joke. His assertions about the use and details of the Steele dossier for a FISA warrant likely were not true. He routinely misled Trump by hiding his knowledge of the Clinton origins of the Steele dossier, and he lied in his assurances to Trump that he was not under FBI investigation. Comey’s testimonies about leaks cannot be reconciled with statements of his deputy Andrew McCabe.
And not Andrew McCabe, who at least on four occasions probably lied about FBI leaks to federal investigators, and later argued that he misunderstood or was misunderstood.
It may be one thing (although it should not be) for private citizens to lie under oath to Congress, but when four of the top officials of our intelligence agencies have lied under oath, and in two cases admitted such, and none were indicted, and all have at times been central players in the matters Mueller is investigating throughout the entire Russian collusion fiasco, then what is left of the American idea of equality under the law?
Answer? Not much at all."
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Why Trump didn't end this Mueller (cum Sessions) fiasco months ago, is beyond me. 

I guess it would'a been political suicide?  
Even tho a majority of 'Merkins, have no confidence in Mueller?  

https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1...6371629056

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@savannahskol said:

@suncoastvike said:
Now can I pop my popcorn Mike?
  

For what?  He was out at noon and on Hannity at 6.  Do you eat popcorn during Hannity? 
Another indictment, another process crime, and further proof of no collusion, btw. From the Never-Trump NRO >> https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/r...onspiracy/

@SFVikeFan said:
Stone should be behind bars, if only for the fact he's a grown man with a Tramp-Stamp of Nixon tattooed on his back - somehow I don't think his new cellmate will find it so cute when he's got Stone bent over his jail cot.

Interesting.  Homosexual sex/tats ID  is rooted in anger, eh?   Thought it twas Diversity!  
Odd observation from a lib from SF?  (I've asked previously if SF is short for San Fran or Sioux Falls >> non-responsive)

Homophobia cool as long as you hate Trump.  Gotcha.  

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/statu...2689308672

This doesn't call for popcorn? I couldn't get through a good drama without it. 
Highly salted is my guess.
PS: those who deplore fake news should not invoke the Hannity name.

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To those still calling for the end of  Mueller's investigation. My question is what's the hurry? Oh i get why you want it ended. Do I believe they will actually tie Trump to it personally. I doubt it or at least my historical thinking says no. Does that mean there was no collusion between his camp and Russia. No it doesn't. That is now the focus of Mueller's investigation.  Remember back to Whitewater. Three separate inquiries found insufficient evidence to proceed against the Clintons before they handed it to Kenneth Starr. The Starr investigation started in 1992 and quickly went no where. So under that same "follow the evidence wherever it leads" it led to the coverup of an affair. The Starr investigation was a total partisan hack job. As they all are. They already had evidence about the affair before they set up Clinton to catch him in a lie about "sexual relationship". That they could never prove either. Some do not consider blowjobs a sexual relationship. What "it" is defense.  So after an investigation that went on from 1992 under Starr and wasn't wrapped up officially until 2000 under the last independent counsel by Robert Ray. All that to impeach him for the set up and a cover up of some blowjobs. Real national security stuff there. By all means lets shut this down now that we already know Russians are connected. To what depth. Thats where "follow the evidence" comes in. 
In the end people will go to jail. People will be found to have broke some law. Some already have. Isn't that the point of any investigation? I'm not surprised people view this as partisan. It has been from the start. The Nunes firewall to Trump is now gone. He won't be running to the White house to report anymore. The Dems. will use their subpoena to go where they want. The only way for Trump to end Mueller is to fire him. I dare him now. That won't stop the house investigations.
So yes my popcorn will be ready.