The exact opposite. I think they could care less what the outcome of the game is, as long as teams turn profit irregardless of their records (and they are). A new coach breeds excitement and curiosity. Firing your G.M. is like upending the apple cart.
Look at how we react to the notion of firing Spielman. The concept of "rebuilding" and the process of "rebuilding" has some kind of draining energy that no one wants to be a part of. I bet "the man in charge" wants nothing to do with that either, because declining interest means less money all around.
That's what I mean by "charade." It's more sarcasm and jest than anything, but the older I get watching this league the more I feel it.
Quote: @njvike said:
Oh, another little FACT that I stumbled upon : Did you know that the current 13 season stretch of Playoff Win futility is unmatched in the HISTORY of the Vikings franchise? It's true......there has NEVER been such a prolonged stretch with such playoff incompetence. NEVER. SMH.
Didn't we win a playoff game last year?
Quote: @BlackMagic7 said:
The exact opposite. I think they could care less what the outcome of the game is, as long as teams turn profit irregardless of their records (and they are). A new coach breeds excitement and curiosity. Firing your G.M. is like upending the apple cart.
Look at how we react to the notion of firing Spielman. The concept of "rebuilding" and the process of "rebuilding" has some kind of draining energy that no one wants to be a part of. I bet "the man in charge" wants nothing to do with that either, because declining interest means less money all around.
That's what I mean by "charade." It's more sarcasm and jest than anything, but the older I get watching this league the more I feel it.
Gotcha. Thanks for the civil explanation instead of personally attacking me.
Agreed that $ is first and foremost the guiding light in most, if not EVERY decision the Wilf's make.
I could understand that (and I have said as much previously) outlook PRIOR to their insanely low cost (for the Wilf's) purchase of the new stadium. Last year? The grand opening of the new training facility. Next year? I hope Mark and Zygi aren't MORE focused on the hotels/businesses opening around Eagan and take a peek at Ricky's historic FAILURE as personnel guru. But, I'm not holding my breath.
The Wilf's are FOCUSED primarily on making their "investment" as profitable as possible. I've actually been in several meetings with Mark and can tell you from first hand experience, PROFIT is the prime driver in ALL decisions they make.
I've no doubt that the Wilf's THINK that they want a SB Championship, but the bottom line will trump that every single time. It kinda explains their willingness to ""Stick with Rick". The profits keep rolling in, the Vikings aren't the worst team, and, unfortunately, the vocal minority of fans seem to think that Richard "2 outta 13" Spielman is a GREAT GM.
Oh well. Good night and thanks for the civil reply.
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ njvike said:
Oh, another little FACT that I stumbled upon : Did you know that the current 13 season stretch of Playoff Win futility is unmatched in the HISTORY of the Vikings franchise? It's true......there has NEVER been such a prolonged stretch with such playoff incompetence. NEVER. SMH.
Didn't we win a playoff game last year?
Nice reading comprehension skills!
Yes, that MIRACLE-ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME HOME playoff win did occur last year.
And that was the 2nd playoff win Ricky's Vikings have managed the past 13 seasons.
That makes a TOTAL of 2 in 13 seasons.
What's your point, if you even have one?
NJ— We all get it, you hate RS. OK. Point made. Could you move on to another topic? You seem to regard Spielman’s breathing on this earth as a physical affront to you personally. Everything you say may be true but we’ve heard it and the way you say it is just rubs a lot of us the wrong way. Example—“Sorry for the use of the term ‘impotence’ I have no doubt that strikes home for you.” WTF? Lighten up NJ. You are better than schoolboy taunts.
I can't wait until the Vikings win their next game... the silence will be golden.
Quote: @njvike said:
@ minny65 said:
@ njvike said:
Oh, another little FACT that I stumbled upon : Did you know that the current 13 season stretch of Playoff Win futility is unmatched in the HISTORY of the Vikings franchise? It's true......there has NEVER been such a prolonged stretch with such playoff incompetence. NEVER. SMH.
Didn't we win a playoff game last year?
Nice reading comprehension skills!
Yes, that MIRACLE-ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME HOME playoff win did occur last year.
And that was the 2nd playoff win Ricky's Vikings have managed the past 13 seasons.
That makes a TOTAL of 2 in 13 seasons.
What's your point, if you even have one?
I think his point was that you were wrong. I don't know what "little fact" you stumbled on... but it appears that YOU are the one with the comprehension problem. You also appear to have a "retention" problem, as well.
But you want SO desperately to be right... that even when an ACTUAL fact is presented (not just your opinion, which you consider to be a fact)... you still can't admit that you made a mistake. But, yeah: the Vikings are the ones who can't admit their mistakes.
I don't know what has happened in your life to lead you to this station... but I really ought to feel sorry for you. I don't though; because Packer fans do not deserve pity- or kindness.
Quote: @pumpf said:
@ njvike said:
@ minny65 said:
@ njvike said:
Oh, another little FACT that I stumbled upon : Did you know that the current 13 season stretch of Playoff Win futility is unmatched in the HISTORY of the Vikings franchise? It's true......there has NEVER been such a prolonged stretch with such playoff incompetence. NEVER. SMH.
Didn't we win a playoff game last year?
Nice reading comprehension skills!
Yes, that MIRACLE-ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME HOME playoff win did occur last year.
And that was the 2nd playoff win Ricky's Vikings have managed the past 13 seasons.
That makes a TOTAL of 2 in 13 seasons.
What's your point, if you even have one?
I think his point was that you were wrong. I don't know what "little fact" you stumbled on... but it appears that YOU are the one with the comprehension problem. You also appear to have a "retention" problem, as well.
But you want SO desperately to be right... that even when an ACTUAL fact is presented (not just your opinion, which you consider to be a fact)... you still can't admit that you made a mistake. But, yeah: the Vikings are the ones who can't admit their mistakes.
I don't know what has happened in your life to lead you to this station... but I really ought to feel sorry for you. I don't though; because Packer fans do not deserve pity- or kindness.
Wow. Stupidity is apparently rampant on this board!
What EXACTLY was wrong with my FACTUAL statement that there has NEVER been a 13 year period in Vikings HISTORY that has produced fewer playoff WINS than the current 13 year run of ineptitude that L'il Ricky has overseen.
L'il minny65 made a STUPID comment which proved his/her inability to comprehend this topic. See the previous paragraph for yet ANOTHER explanation.
Jeez. I didn't realize that blind allegiance led to outright stupidity. Good to know.
Quote: @Caactorvike said:
NJ— We all get it, you hate RS. OK. Point made. Could you move on to another topic? You seem to regard Spielman’s breathing on this earth as a physical affront to you personally. Everything you say may be true but we’ve heard it and the way you say it is just rubs a lot of us the wrong way. Example—“Sorry for the use of the term ‘impotence’ I have no doubt that strikes home for you.” WTF? Lighten up NJ. You are better than schoolboy taunts.
First, I don't hate Schpielman PERSONALLY. Don't know the man, don't want to. I DO know that his "2 for 13" record is quite enough for me to want to move on. I do hate that he remains in charge of personnel and responsible for correcting his 13 years of incompetence. Call me crazy. Don't care.
It's comical that you point out the impotence comment (which was good, I might add) but FAIL TO MENTION WHY I replied in that fashion. That jackass and numerous others on this board routinely bombard me with personal attacks in response to my posts stating FACTS why I think the Vikings should move on from RS.
Where was the angst about the hundreds of posts about Walsh, Turner, Ponder, Bradford, Carlson, DeFillipo, Priefer, Keenum, Kluwe, etc.? You were probably one of the torch bearing townsfolk for most, if not ALL of those poor bastards. I can't recall you or ANY other "level -headed" fan lecturing THOSE mobs....why? Seems to me the ONLY common denominator in ALL of those popular purple pariahs is Ricky. Hmm.
I KNOW I'm better than schoolboy taunts.....I'm only REPLYING IN KIND to the d-bag SCHOOLBOYS that seem to only understand that type of recourse. If they can't take it, DON'T dish it out. Simple.
My issue is with Ricky "2 for 13" Spielman. I don't attack any poster here until they childlishly attack me.
But hey, I get it. Vikings fans LOVE to have an EXCUSE. I'm the bad guy....it's the fact that I'm pointing out, well, FACTS that is causing the Vikings to have their longest stretch of Playoff IMPOTENCE in their entire HISTORY!!!
Shoot the messenger, go on. Doesn't change the last 13 futile seasons and it won't change the inevitable outcome of the 2019 season, either.
Peace and good night.
Quote: @njvike said:
@ StickyBun said:
I think its a very credible question. The players the coaches are given and how many injuries that a team has in any particular year are WAY more influential in the outcome of wins and losses than actual coaching in most cases. The GM should be held much more accountable than they are. And in defense of both a GM and HC, a damn slew of injuries above what is normal can undermine a talented and well coached team.
The buck seems to stop with the head coach: and I do think the reason a GM isn't under the same kind of scrutiny is because they have a closer relationship with ownership.
Valid points about injuries, but we're not talking about (with Ricky, at least) a 2-3 year period. We're talking about a 13 year period. That's enough time for a couple to meet, get married and now have a middle school aged child. That's a LOOOOOONG time. The injury thang just don't mask 13 seasons of playoff ineptitude.
Injuries and how they relate to a particular season, not over the course of 13 seasons as you mention is my point.
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