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StickyBun · 12-25-2018, 02:46 PM

I'm a fan of Kirk, have said as much all year long. He's operated behind a very inconsistent line and that has been problematic. But regardless, he's paid big guaranteed money to win games exactly like the one upcoming against Chicago. Its time to go and take it, no excuses. Pretty obvious from the national media they want Philly to get in and not the Vikings....its a better story. Crazy how Foles is coming up huge again for them.

12-25-2018, 03:31 PM

Unfortunately for Kirk, there are two realities. There is reality: the truth based on the facts and context. And there is perception: what everyone believes regardless of those two things. In the spotlight, perception IS reality.

So true or not, fair or not, lose on Sunday and the Kirk Cousins thing will be perceived as an expensive failure for the Vikings.

12-25-2018, 03:32 PM

Most TD's by a Viking QB since Bert. Unlike The Bronco's, I think we're just fine @ QB for a while.

I have 0 doubt the Vikings win Sunday...Its the following week where I am yee of little faith in players and coaches to pull-off a win.

A very Jeckyl/Hyde team in 2018.

12-25-2018, 08:53 PM

Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Most TD's by a Viking QB since Bert. Unlike The Bronco's, I think we're just fine @ QB for a while.

I have 0 doubt the Vikings win Sunday...Its the following week where I am yee of little faith in players and coaches to pull-off a win.

A very Jeckyl/Hyde team in 2018.

About sums it up for me.

12-25-2018, 08:56 PM

I am hoping that he can find his clutch. He has done some good things this season. And no matter who is at qb, we have a shitty OL. But Cousins has been paid to win in spite of that. He cannot turtle up now. And I agree with you PF, they get in but then what? The whole team has to show up and get the job done. They can make things happen at home but they still have to get it done on the road. I don't understand why the talking heads want Philly to win and I don't care. I am sick and tired of their crappy narratives.

12-26-2018, 01:22 PM

Kirk has a history of not showing up for big games. I've never bothered to look into why this has been. His record against good teams is what it is. It's not just his record alone. The teams around him own their part. He has been very good at his job here. I don't blame him for our loses. It's what happens going forward that matters. Starting this Sunday. He could either own the day or own his reputation. Fair or not that's the way peoples minds work.

12-26-2018, 01:46 PM

Quote: @suncoastvike said:
Kirk has a history of not showing up for big games. I've never bothered to look into why this has been. His record against good teams is what it is. It's not just his record alone. The teams around him own their part. He has been very good at his job here. I don't blame him for our loses. It's what happens going forward that matters. Starting this Sunday. He could either own the day or own his reputation. Fair or not that's the way peoples minds work.

Really can't pin it solely on Cousins...usually a loss constitutes failures on the whole team. Same as a win is considered a "Team" win.

12-26-2018, 02:17 PM

Quote: @ArizonaViking said:

@suncoastvike said:
Kirk has a history of not showing up for big games. I've never bothered to look into why this has been. His record against good teams is what it is. It's not just his record alone. The teams around him own their part. He has been very good at his job here. I don't blame him for our loses. It's what happens going forward that matters. Starting this Sunday. He could either own the day or own his reputation. Fair or not that's the way peoples minds work.
Really can't pin it solely on Cousins...usually a loss constitutes failures on the whole team. Same as a win is considered a "Team" win.

I dont think anybody is putting anything solely on Cousins, but for 28 million a year.. guaranteed... he needs to be more than a game manager, at some point he needs to be the guy that says get on my back and lets go play winning football. he needs to show something that opposing teams have to game plan against and he has really only shown that in sporadic glimpses this season thus far. Its time to shit or get off the pot, do or die, win or go home and our franchise QB has to rise to the occassion or the murmers will get louder and make things more uncomfortable for him.

12-26-2018, 02:32 PM

Where is this Cousins and game manager coming from? Maybe I'm still in a stupor from anesthesia, but the guy has been a hell of a lot more gun-slinger imo.

The KC we're seeing the last few weeks I GUARANTEE is is Zimmer-ball influenced and comes right from the head-coach to Stefanski.

Add on top of that the shi t OL effect? Toxicity

This sure sounds like an apology for KC post and that's not my intent. He's not perfect. I think it's interesting how I see our best QB since Favre and others see a game manager.

12-26-2018, 03:50 PM

Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Where is this Cousins and game manager coming from? Maybe I'm still in a stupor from anesthesia, but the guy has been a hell of a lot more gun-slinger imo.

The KC we're seeing the last few weeks I GUARANTEE is is Zimmer-ball influenced and comes right from the head-coach to Stefanski.

Add on top of that the shi t OL effect? Toxicity

This sure sounds like an apology for KC post and that's not my intent. He's not perfect. I think it's interesting how I see our best QB since Favre and others see a game manager.

at times he is more and at times he is less... i have seen the gunslinger, I have seen Case Keenum 2.0, I have seen some Ponderesque moments as well... I want to see a 28 million dollar QB on a lot more consistent basis. He needs to use his legs more to keep the pursuit guessing, his lack of showing mobility in and out of the pocket is concerning. yes he is our best QB by some statistics since Favre, but lets not pretend that bar has been set very high since then. I dont expect a top 3 QB, but I would like to see more Favre and less WTF going forward.