It is starting to pour now.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/13/trump-inauguration-spending-under-criminal-investigation-by-federal-prosecutors-dow-jones.html
Trump inauguration spending reportedly under criminal investigation by federal prosecutors - Manhattan-based federal prosecutors are investigating whether some of the $107 million in donations to then President-elect Donald Trump's inaugural committee were misspent, The Wall Street Journal reports.
- The Journal, citing people familiar with the matter, says the investigation arose in part from the slew of materials seized in April raids on Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, by federal prosecutors.
- The criminal probe is also looking into whether some of the committee's top spenders traded money for access to the incoming Trump administration, as well as "policy concessions or to influence official administration positions," sources tell the Journal.
Gotta love that Giulani is in Bahrain working on his security business.
"The government-run Bahrain News Agency featured a photo of Mr. Giuliani meeting in a royal palace with King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa. The story said the king discussed “Bahraini-U.S. relations” with Mr. Giuliani, who was described as leading a “high-level U.S. delegation.”
But Mr. Giuliani was not in Bahrain, a country with a record of human rights abuses, on official business. He was there to seek a lucrative security consulting contract with the government."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/us/po...broad.html.
Replace the names Trump with Obama or Clinton and Giulani with Pannetta and we would have this thread at 14 pages.
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
Replace the names Trump with Obama or Clinton and Giulani with Pannetta and we would have this thread at 14 pages.
I don't think there's a single Trumpkin who has the ability to see things objectively. To think critically and evaluate events from various perspectives.
Imagine the outrage from those very same people if Obama had done any ONE of a hundred things Trump has done, from grabbing pussies to paying off porn stars to praising Putin and Kim Jong Un while criticizing our own intelligence community. From his cowardly inaction on Khashoggi to his saluting a North Korean general to calling the press the "enemy of the people."
Well, to be fair, I guess Obama wore a tan suit once.
It was a brown suit, it was described as tan by the mainstreammediafakenews.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ BigAl99 said:
Replace the names Trump with Obama or Clinton and Giulani with Pannetta and we would have this thread at 14 pages.
I don't think there's a single Trumpkin who has the ability to see things objectively. To think critically and evaluate events from various perspectives.
Imagine the outrage from those very same people if Obama had done any ONE of a hundred things Trump has done, from grabbing pussies to paying off porn stars to praising Putin and Kim Jong Un while criticizing our own intelligence community. From his cowardly inaction on Khashoggi to his saluting a North Korean general to calling the press the "enemy of the people."
Well, to be fair, I guess Obama wore a tan suit once.
Do you think there's something special about "Trumpkins" that makes them unable to see things objectively or is this applicable to all people? What is the differentiating factor (bad genetics, family culture they were raised in, poor neighborhoods, worse schools, etc.) that prevents them from having the higher cognitive functions that you are blessed with?
Quote: @medaille said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ BigAl99 said:
Replace the names Trump with Obama or Clinton and Giulani with Pannetta and we would have this thread at 14 pages.
I don't think there's a single Trumpkin who has the ability to see things objectively. To think critically and evaluate events from various perspectives.
Imagine the outrage from those very same people if Obama had done any ONE of a hundred things Trump has done, from grabbing pussies to paying off porn stars to praising Putin and Kim Jong Un while criticizing our own intelligence community. From his cowardly inaction on Khashoggi to his saluting a North Korean general to calling the press the "enemy of the people."
Well, to be fair, I guess Obama wore a tan suit once.
Do you think there's something special about "Trumpkins" that makes them unable to see things objectively or is this applicable to all people? What is the differentiating factor (bad genetics, family culture they were raised in, poor neighborhoods, worse schools, etc.) that prevents them from having the higher cognitive functions that you are blessed with?
You tell me. Personally, I think the biggest problem is that they glamorize his buffoonery as the "fresh voice of an outsider." So no matter how low he stoops, or how much he might lie, or break the law, or how unpresidential he might be at any given moment, they will say that this is exactly why they voted for him. I think another thing is that they lack bullshit detectors. So when Trump reels off a list of things than him, like "loves the Bible" or "respects women" we all laugh and go "you gotta be freaking kidding me," they go "damn right." I guess? But that's only part of it.
What's your take? Psychologists the world over have been trying to figure them out for two years. If you're truly interested, there are hundreds of articles like this one that attempts to figure them out....
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/...key-traits
Either way, history books over the next hundred years are going to be filled with attempts to answer this question.
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
Gotta love that Giulani is in Bahrain working on his security business.
"The government-run Bahrain News Agency featured a photo of Mr. Giuliani meeting in a royal palace with King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa. The story said the king discussed “Bahraini-U.S. relations” with Mr. Giuliani, who was described as leading a “high-level U.S. delegation.”
But Mr. Giuliani was not in Bahrain, a country with a record of human rights abuses, on official business. He was there to seek a lucrative security consulting contract with the government."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/us/po...broad.html.
Replace the names Trump with Obama or Clinton and Giulani with Pannetta and we would have this thread at 14 pages.
It is the silence that speaks volumes lately. I've seen vocal support spilling off from just before the mid-term. The Twitter comment section has been drying up with supporters. Yes I do read his Tweets I admit I joined because of him. I never tweet just follow. These forums and the like are following suit. It actually is nicer to not have so much mucking up my sports. The twitter is funny. The twit an chief now throws some crap at the wall and it flies back in his face like it hit a fan. His loyal fans are not contradicting anymore. A few may still comment but no where near the WINNING attitude. You know he reads them comments. He must really feel sooo alone now.
Well he'll still have FOX and their panel of ''expert''. Yes singular.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ BigAl99 said:
Replace the names Trump with Obama or Clinton and Giulani with Pannetta and we would have this thread at 14 pages.
I don't think there's a single Trumpkin who has the ability to see things objectively. To think critically and evaluate events from various perspectives.
Imagine the outrage from those very same people if Obama had done any ONE of a hundred things Trump has done, from grabbing pussies to paying off porn stars to praising Putin and Kim Jong Un while criticizing our own intelligence community. From his cowardly inaction on Khashoggi to his saluting a North Korean general to calling the press the "enemy of the people."
Well, to be fair, I guess Obama wore a tan suit once.
I'm not a Trumpkin... but no one seems to care what I think, either. And I think it's because EVERYONE has their own biases. Some of us recognize them (and maybe even try to mitigate them); others just look for ways to prove (to themselves) that they were right all along.
That's what makes a thread like this so amusing... but frustrating. If it wasn't Trump, does anyone really think that *they* would treat Cruz any differently? I don't. He'd still be called all the things that Trump has been called (including ignorant- even though Cruz is smarter than (pretty much) anyone on this site. Bush was the opposite of Trump (in many ways), and look at the character assassination that he faced. It doesn't matter who the person is; if they are in the wrong "tribe" then they are the enemy. Period. And until that changes, all this hand-wringing and virtue-signaling won't accomplish a thing- because it's not intended to. It's only intended to deify one "side" and demonize the other.
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