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Well I'm one "up" on you, I dogged both O'Neill and Mike Hughes. Next year's CB group : XR, Waynes, Hughes Alexander, Holton Hill.  That is some ridiculous CB depth.  Now can we finally find a freaking guard?!?

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I would say you need more time before crowning his arse.  But he does look decent.
The interesting thing is if anyone criciticizes the PFF grades but now accepts them.
I don't think anyone is doing that here but I have seen it before.
Mike Zimmer does not care about their grades.
Still, imagine if the Vikings would have taken Hernandez AND O'Neill with their first two picks.
They easily could have done it too.
With Holton Hill playing well the Hughes pick seems like a luxury and he was just doing OK.
I expect the Hughes pick is a sign that they do not plan on extending Waynes because the cost will be too high.
Hopefully, Spielman can do like other GMs and trade him to get a guaranteed pick instead of waiting and hoping on a compensatory pick.

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@MarkSP18 said:

I would say you need more time before crowning his arse.  But he does look decent.
The interesting thing is if anyone criciticizes the PFF grades but now accepts them.
I don't think anyone is doing that here but I have seen it before.
Mike Zimmer does not care about their grades.
Still, imagine if the Vikings would have taken Hernandez AND O'Neill with their first two picks.
They easily could have done it too.
With Holton Hill playing well the Hughes pick seems like a luxury and he was just doing OK.
I expect the Hughes pick is a sign that they do not plan on extending Waynes because the cost will be too high.
Hopefully, Spielman can do like other GMs and trade him to get a guaranteed pick instead of waiting and hoping on a compensatory pick.

In a passing league we can never have enough CB depth  or pass rushers.  They can draft DT help LB help and let Barr and Richardson walk or Spielman does his piss on a veteran thing and Brez does his contract voodoo and we keep everybody?  Either way I don't want to see Waynes go any where.  IIRC Alexander is a FA so Hughes in the slot with Rhodes and Waynes outside and Hill as a nickel, dime, or insurance back ....that sounds a lot better to me.

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@JimmyinSD said:

@MarkSP18 said:

I would say you need more time before crowning his arse.  But he does look decent.
The interesting thing is if anyone criciticizes the PFF grades but now accepts them.
I don't think anyone is doing that here but I have seen it before.
Mike Zimmer does not care about their grades.
Still, imagine if the Vikings would have taken Hernandez AND O'Neill with their first two picks.
They easily could have done it too.
With Holton Hill playing well the Hughes pick seems like a luxury and he was just doing OK.
I expect the Hughes pick is a sign that they do not plan on extending Waynes because the cost will be too high.
Hopefully, Spielman can do like other GMs and trade him to get a guaranteed pick instead of waiting and hoping on a compensatory pick.

In a passing league we can never have enough CB depth  or pass rushers.  They can draft DT help LB help and let Barr and Richardson walk or Spielman does his piss on a veteran thing and Brez does his contract voodoo and we keep everybody?  Either way I don't want to see Waynes go any where.  IIRC Alexander is a FA so Hughes in the slot with Rhodes and Waynes outside and Hill as a nickel, dime, or insurance back ....that sounds a lot better to me.

Alexander has one more year.  2019 is his last season.  Since Hughes did not play in the slot in college and has not played there much this year, I would think he might do better on the outside.
Maybe he can make the switch but I am sure there will be some growing pains.  Hopefully not to the Josh Robinson level.
I just think Waynes is going to get north of 10 mil per year on his next deal.  That might be too much regardless of if they keep Richardson or Barr.

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@njvike said:
Well, I guess it's settled. He'll be a Pro Bowler for the next 10 years and never get injured. Just like Dalvin-jury is Marshall Faulk 2.0.

Good to know. 

Can Vikings fans for ONCE not get too arrogant and condescending after a few games? Especially about a drafted OL? Matt Khalil ring any bells? 

Good question. Look in the mirror for once and ask yourself if you cannot get so arrogant and condescending for once when all you have is negativity to spread. Granted I am not saying there are no misses only hits. But all you talk about and see is misses. All you do is post the negative extreme. And nowhere am I seeing anyone saying anything about Pro Bowl or Marshall Failk 2.0. 

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I knew nothing about O'Neill except that he seemed to be athletic - I think he was a TE when he got to college - and needed to get stronger.  But I had no real opinion, positive or negative, about that pick - just that it had to be an O-lineman.
I mostly recall people losing their minds that we took a CB with our first pick rather than an O-lineman. I thought CB was the right pick, although the selection of Hughes was a surprise considering the circumstances under which he left NC. Now I think Hughes was the right pick.
I've seen Hernandez play a little with the Giants. What I saw was not good. Small sample size, but still. I think Hughes is a much better pick than Hernandez would have been.

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@Vikergirl said:

@njvike said:
Well, I guess it's settled. He'll be a Pro Bowler for the next 10 years and never get injured. Just like Dalvin-jury is Marshall Faulk 2.0.

Good to know. 

Can Vikings fans for ONCE not get too arrogant and condescending after a few games? Especially about a drafted OL? Matt Khalil ring any bells? 

Good question. Look in the mirror for once and ask yourself if you cannot get so arrogant and condescending for once when all you have is negativity to spread. Granted I am not saying there are no misses only hits. But all you talk about and see is misses. All you do is post the negative extreme. And nowhere am I seeing anyone saying anything about Pro Bowl or Marshall Failk 2.0. 

Please dont engage with the trolls.   its only feeds their self worth and gives them a feeling of belonging.

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@suncoastvike said:
Hi I'm suncoast and I'm a vikeaholic.

Hi Vikeaholic!!

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@suncoastvike said:
I take no responsibility for my ignorance. I really don't do the whole draft analysis thing. I only watch a couple college teams really. My Gators and the Gophers. So I listened to everyone else who told me he was a reach. They lied to me. I was framed. 

Right there with ya. 

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@njvike said:


Can Vikings fans for ONCE not get too arrogant and condescending after a few games?

I really shouldn't engage, but the irony is just too rich here.

In a mea culpa thread no less.