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Oakland WR Amari Cooper traded to Dallas
#21
Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.
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#22
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.
Is there a better way to replenish the roster?
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#23
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@StickyBun said:
Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.
Is there a better way to replenish the roster?
Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.
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#24
I’m not really a fan of the whole, we’re just going to get
rid of all our good players to try and bring in different good players.  I think a good coach should be able to fit
his scheme around the players he has as he continues to add players that move
toward his desired scheme.  That said I
think there’s a lot to be said about getting team first guys and building your
franchise around guys who are building the right culture.  I don’t really think theres any evidence that
Mack or Cooper were bad apples or anything, other than statements that they
wanted to be paid well, but if they were a bad fit, it’s a good move to get rid
of them early for value than doubling down on them by locking yourself into a
huge contract.
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#25
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@StickyBun said:
Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.
Is there a better way to replenish the roster?
Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.
Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?
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#26
Quote: @FSUVike said:
@StickyBun said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@StickyBun said:
Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.
Is there a better way to replenish the roster?
Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.
Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?
Like I said, he's a generational talent. They can transcend the new rules. Idiotic trade.
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#27
Jerry had to have a “ Big Name “ WR


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#28
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@FSUVike said:
@StickyBun said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@StickyBun said:
Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.
Is there a better way to replenish the roster?
Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.
Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?
Like I said, he's a generational talent. They can transcend the new rules. Idiotic trade.
At what cost? He's looking to become the highest paid non-QB in the League. Could Oakland afford to pay him like that and still field a good enough Offense in this new Era you are predicting is a permanent thing?
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#29
Quote: @FSUVike said:
@StickyBun said:
@FSUVike said:
@StickyBun said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@StickyBun said:
Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.
Is there a better way to replenish the roster?
Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.
Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?
Like I said, he's a generational talent. They can transcend the new rules. Idiotic trade.
At what cost? He's looking to become the highest paid non-QB in the League. Could Oakland afford to pay him like that and still field a good enough Offense in this new Era you are predicting is a permanent thing?
Yes, but I suspect the Raiders have cashflow issues.

Danielle Hunter - is he not worth a big contract because rules favor the offense?   Hunter in his entire career:  0 roughing the passer penalties


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#30
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@FSUVike said:
@StickyBun said:
@FSUVike said:
@StickyBun said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@StickyBun said:
Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.
Is there a better way to replenish the roster?
Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.
Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?
Like I said, he's a generational talent. They can transcend the new rules. Idiotic trade.
At what cost? He's looking to become the highest paid non-QB in the League. Could Oakland afford to pay him like that and still field a good enough Offense in this new Era you are predicting is a permanent thing?
Yes, but I suspect the Raiders have cashflow issues.

Danielle Hunter - is he not worth a big contract because rules favor the offense?   Hunter in his entire career:  0 roughing the passer penalties


Just pointing out what I believe to be two views held by many here that appear to be contradictory: Defense is dead in the NFL and you shouldn't build your team around that side of the ball, and Gruden is an idiot for trading Mack.

Personally, I think the NFL is cyclical and full of too many smart coaches and talented athletes for either Offense or Defense to rule the roost too long no matter how badly Owners muck with the rules.

I also don't believe the Raiders should have made Mack the highest paid Defensive Player of all time because, unlike Minnesota, they don't have good pieces on Defense to compliment him. They also don't have an Offensive Line, Skilled Weapons, and aren't even sure if they have a Franchise QB. 

Why dole out an albatross of a contract when you're in complete rebuilding mode?
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