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10-21-2018, 09:05 PM

Why... why did they keep forcing the ball to Diggs behind the los!? It killed about 5-6 possessions! Everyone at the bar kept seeing it, and saying it, and they kept doing it. Then when they came out and ran 'normal' plays it worked... ??? THROW THE BALL TO THIELEN!!! That works damn near every time!!!

10-21-2018, 09:08 PM

That is a high risk low reward throw...stupid unless you have a guy like Patterson...

10-21-2018, 09:09 PM

This behind the LOS screens to WR's and laterals have to stop. Especially when the Jets had 9 in the box and were never fooled by 'em.

And if Thielen can get 100 plus down the field, why the hell is Diggs used as a gimmick player? Second and long and they're throwing little dump passes?

Too many quick 3 and outs. Luckily Darnold was Darnold today.

10-21-2018, 09:11 PM

If Flip calls that play again, I'm sending a 15 man squad to meet him after the saints game...

10-22-2018, 12:55 AM

Quote: @Ralphie said:
This behind the LOS screens to WR's and laterals have to stop. Especially when the Jets had 9 in the box and were never fooled by 'em.

And if Thielen can get 100 plus down the field, why the hell is Diggs used as a gimmick player? Second and long and they're throwing little dump passes?

Too many quick 3 and outs. Luckily Darnold was Darnold today.

Those plays were driving me nuts. Diggs is a good route runner, yet they constantly have him running drag routes and receiver screens. Defenses are sitting on those plays now, so there's not a huge chance for yards after the catch, which those plays rely on. At least today there was a ton of wind, that may have limited downfield passing, but we've been running the same plays for the past few weeks. Not to mention that we've had a couple fumbles on those short passes because Cousins ends up throwing them backwards and teams blow up the plays, because they know what is coming.

I get that the short passes are basically meant as runs, but the abandonment of the running game is frustrating. Not much to say on that other than that we need to run more. They've run better the past two games, not sure if that can be attributed to O'Neill or just playing bad teams. The Jets record is fine, but I still view them as a bad team.

I don't think this is just a DeFilippo thing, but does anyone with good knowledge of blocking know why they motion the receiver back behind the OT to seal the edge on almost every running play? It feels like it telegraphs the play or is it purely a numbers game at that point and the advantage of an extra blocker outweighs the defense knowing what it is coming? I saw that they were trying to run same passes out of that look today, but those didn't work. Maybe I just became more aware of it recently, but it feels like we've done this all the time under Shurmur and DeFilippo and I don't remember this being so common before them.

10-22-2018, 12:57 AM

I have been pleasantly surprised with Flip, but agree - today left a lot to be desired.

Would be nice to find some running game next week. Best defense against Brees is when he's on the bench.

10-22-2018, 01:23 AM

Quote: @Ralphie said:
This behind the LOS screens to WR's and laterals have to stop. Especially when the Jets had 9 in the box and were never fooled by 'em.

And if Thielen can get 100 plus down the field, why the hell is Diggs used as a gimmick player? Second and long and they're throwing little dump passes?

Too many quick 3 and outs. Luckily Darnold was Darnold today.

Those were absolutely ridiculous and repeated waste of downs.

10-22-2018, 02:32 AM

The offense does look quite predictable at times. When we ran on first downs where the defense was playing the run, the results were usually terrible. That created second and long - an obvious passing down. So we would run against a run defense and pass against a pass defense. Not smart.

Both teams ran the ball 24 times. The Vikings threw it 40 times. The Jets threw it 42 times. We ran for 88 yards (3.67 avg) and threw for 241 (6.025 avg).

10-22-2018, 08:14 AM

I believe we we yesterday.

10-22-2018, 08:55 AM

The team is still figuring things out offensively and have dialed in their defense to a much better extent. Still tuning up the engine and the team is 4-2-1. Not bad. But we'll learn a bunch the next two games against the Saints and Lions at home.