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10-12-2018, 09:06 AM

Check down Manning is killing Shurmur. Many times the camera caught Pat saying 'throw the damn ball' when Manning threw another 2 yard pass on 2 and 16.

10-12-2018, 09:16 AM

That team lost all focus after Coughlin left. Then they floundered under a weak head coach. Pat came in with the hope of getting wins early in his tenure and rebuilding on the run. That is not going to work with this group of defeated players in a polluted locker room. Time for Pat to burn it down and start a total rebuild. Many players there now are to f***ed up to change. I hope they give this staff a couple years to turn over this roster before they make a decision on Shurmur and his ability.

10-12-2018, 11:29 AM

4 yrs of HC'ing the Gmen will take 12 off your life...

Good luck Pat.

10-12-2018, 12:30 PM

Quote: @Vikergirl said:
https://twitter.com/tlott33/status/10505...75584?s=19

What a POS attitude. Does that remind you of anyone? I lost lots of respect for old #84 after that stunt.

10-12-2018, 12:35 PM

The past 5-6 years I've been hearing this undercurrent and low-level griping by some coaches that the players today 'are different'. Harder to coach. I kind of dismissed it somewhat as sour grapes or coaches venting but I'm starting to think it might have some legs.

10-12-2018, 01:17 PM

Quote: @StickyBun said:
The past 5-6 years I've been hearing this undercurrent and low-level griping by some coaches that the players today 'are different'. Harder to coach. I kind of dismissed it somewhat as sour grapes or coaches venting but I'm starting to think it might have some legs.

I dont think its just players are harder to coach. IMO there is a huge communication gap between me and much of the generations coming up. I come from about the last of the hand shake and conversation generations, those in their early 30s and younger seem to come from the face in a small screen generation where a facebook "like" is more important than a pat on the back it seems. I am finding its getting rarer and rarer to find a kid that is willing and able to carry a conversation about something that isnt about social media or social media personalities like kim and kanye and such. I am not saying these are bad kids... just different than I was.

as far as watching the giants implode... couldnt VG just have said she was watching the giants... the rest is kind of implied.

10-12-2018, 01:33 PM

Kinda like the Bills game ehh?

10-12-2018, 01:55 PM

Quote: @JimmyinSD said:

@StickyBun said:
The past 5-6 years I've been hearing this undercurrent and low-level griping by some coaches that the players today 'are different'. Harder to coach. I kind of dismissed it somewhat as sour grapes or coaches venting but I'm starting to think it might have some legs.
I dont think its just players are harder to coach. IMO there is a huge communication gap between me and much of the generations coming up. I come from about the last of the hand shake and conversation generations, those in their early 30s and younger seem to come from the face in a small screen generation where a facebook "like" is more important than a pat on the back it seems. I am finding its getting rarer and rarer to find a kid that is willing and able to carry a conversation about something that isnt about social media or social media personalities like kim and kanye and such. I am not saying these are bad kids... just different than I was.

as far as watching the giants implode... couldnt VG just have said she was watching the giants... the rest is kind of implied.

I could have but since I was actually watching it, I said what I said. I know they had a crappy season last year and it looks like it carried over into this year. The team was absolutely pathetic last night and the fans let them know, well the few fans that were actually at the game. It was a real shit show to witness.

As far as the generation gap, there is always an us versus them mentality. The younger versus older generation thing has been around forever. It has just been amplified with the technology that is available. It's a different world and young people are adapting to it. Good or bad, this is the way of the world today. At work I do meetings online such as webinars and video conferences because we are accommodating a lot of time zones and not everything is face to face. At my previous job, I never met one of my bosses because she was at another location. I work with people that are a wide range of ages and see plenty of older people stuck in their phones or computer screens.

10-12-2018, 02:10 PM

Quote: @Vikergirl said:

@JimmyinSD said:

@StickyBun said:
The past 5-6 years I've been hearing this undercurrent and low-level griping by some coaches that the players today 'are different'. Harder to coach. I kind of dismissed it somewhat as sour grapes or coaches venting but I'm starting to think it might have some legs.
I dont think its just players are harder to coach. IMO there is a huge communication gap between me and much of the generations coming up. I come from about the last of the hand shake and conversation generations, those in their early 30s and younger seem to come from the face in a small screen generation where a facebook "like" is more important than a pat on the back it seems. I am finding its getting rarer and rarer to find a kid that is willing and able to carry a conversation about something that isnt about social media or social media personalities like kim and kanye and such. I am not saying these are bad kids... just different than I was.

as far as watching the giants implode... couldnt VG just have said she was watching the giants... the rest is kind of implied.
I could have but since I was actually watching it, I said what I said. I know they had a crappy season last year and it looks like it carried over into this year. The team was absolutely pathetic last night and the fans let them know, well the few fans that were actually at the game. It was a real shit show to witness.

As far as the generation gap, there is always an us versus them mentality. The younger versus older generation thing has been around forever. It has just been amplified with the technology that is available. It's a different world and young people are adapting to it. Good or bad, this is the way of the world today. At work I do meetings online such as webinars and video conferences because we are accommodating a lot of time zones and not everything is face to face. At my previous job, I never met one of my bosses because she was at another location. I work with people that are a wide range of ages and see plenty of older people stuck in their phones or computer screens.

yes you will find exceptions, i wasnt saying it in a general way or even in a negative way... its a differnt culture and it is affecting different generations differently... however you would be hard pressed to convince me that the under 30 crowed isnt much more prone to exhibit the behavious that I mentioned.