Quote: @greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
The sentimentality of fans know no bounds. Brian Robison not being on this team doesn't have anything to do with anything other than losing what would have been a decent rotational DE. He was very much a leader of the football team, without a doubt. But the team was a missed FG away from being 2-0, not sure where this low level doom and gloom in this thread is coming from other than typical Viking's fan angst. We can be a group of sad sacks that micro-manage everything the team does. Too close to the forest to see the trees sometimes, myself included. The Vikings were on a magic carpet ride with Keenum, that can't be duplicated. Its a new year.
These latest moves where designed to rectify problems that could have continued to hurt the team going forward. Not sure why this should be anything other than applauded rather than some hand-wringing. Regardless of what the results are, the process was correct.
Read this for a different perspective:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...owl-puzzle
lol, no one said not having BRob was the reason we lost. You might want to re-read the posts to get the feel for what other fans actually think about the issue.
Ha, did I miss the gist of it? I thought it was that cutting Robison changed the team chemistry and all the recent moves seemed reactionary. Is that wrong? I wasn't talking about why they tied the Packers, my point was that nothing has really changed without Robison and they are still a great team. At least that's what I thought you and ghost, vikergirl were referring to?
It seems a few others got my take and understood it?
You know what I think the big take away here is? The Vikings ownership and management wants to win. They're not F'ing around.
Their actions are aggressive, agile and quick
As a fan or a player? That's all you can ask for...
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
The sentimentality of fans know no bounds. Brian Robison not being on this team doesn't have anything to do with anything other than losing what would have been a decent rotational DE. He was very much a leader of the football team, without a doubt. But the team was a missed FG away from being 2-0, not sure where this low level doom and gloom in this thread is coming from other than typical Viking's fan angst. We can be a group of sad sacks that micro-manage everything the team does. Too close to the forest to see the trees sometimes, myself included. The Vikings were on a magic carpet ride with Keenum, that can't be duplicated. Its a new year.
These latest moves where designed to rectify problems that could have continued to hurt the team going forward. Not sure why this should be anything other than applauded rather than some hand-wringing. Regardless of what the results are, the process was correct.
Read this for a different perspective:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...owl-puzzle
lol, no one said not having BRob was the reason we lost. You might want to re-read the posts to get the feel for what other fans actually think about the issue.
Ha, did I miss the gist of it? I thought it was that cutting Robison changed the team chemistry and all the recent moves seemed reactionary. Is that wrong? I wasn't talking about why they tied the Packers, my point was that nothing has really changed without Robison. At least that's what I thought you and ghost were referring to?
Neither PG nor I seemed to say that the recent moves were reactionary. She mentioned a nagging feeling that something is missing or could backfire. That is my question too, how will the players react to a "business" decision to cut a team guy that just took a paycut 2 years in a row. Not doom and gloom, but just a question or little nagging feeling.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
The sentimentality of fans know no bounds. Brian Robison not being on this team doesn't have anything to do with anything other than losing what would have been a decent rotational DE. He was very much a leader of the football team, without a doubt. But the team was a missed FG away from being 2-0, not sure where this low level doom and gloom in this thread is coming from other than typical Viking's fan angst. We can be a group of sad sacks that micro-manage everything the team does. Too close to the forest to see the trees sometimes, myself included. The Vikings were on a magic carpet ride with Keenum, that can't be duplicated. Its a new year.
These latest moves where designed to rectify problems that could have continued to hurt the team going forward. Not sure why this should be anything other than applauded rather than some hand-wringing. Regardless of what the results are, the process was correct.
Read this for a different perspective:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...owl-puzzle
lol, no one said not having BRob was the reason we lost. You might want to re-read the posts to get the feel for what other fans actually think about the issue.
Ha, did I miss the gist of it? I thought it was that cutting Robison changed the team chemistry and all the recent moves seemed reactionary. Is that wrong? I wasn't talking about why they tied the Packers, my point was that nothing has really changed without Robison. At least that's what I thought you and ghost were referring to?
Neither PG nor I seemed to say that the recent moves were reactionary. She mentioned a nagging feeling that something is missing or could backfire. That is my question too, how will the players react to a "business" decision to cut a team guy that just took a paycut 2 years in a row. Not doom and gloom, but just a question or little nagging feeling.
Ok, so I did respond correctly to what was said: its fan sentimentality. The players know its a business and they can see the team is doing its best to win right now. Your 'nagging' feeling comes from not liking that Robison got cut, nothing you are seeing on the field. Robison's sack and tackle totals last year were the lowest of his career since 2010. He was a declining player that was strictly rotational, that's the hard truth.
I think everything else the team is doing with facilities, being agile, quick and decisive on the personnel front speaks volumes to the players.
Always tough to see a veteran go and I wish BRob, Pops and the family well. Brian has made a ton of $$$ and is blessed with a beautiful family.
I hope he's moved on to his post football career well.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
The sentimentality of fans know no bounds. Brian Robison not being on this team doesn't have anything to do with anything other than losing what would have been a decent rotational DE. He was very much a leader of the football team, without a doubt. But the team was a missed FG away from being 2-0, not sure where this low level doom and gloom in this thread is coming from other than typical Viking's fan angst. We can be a group of sad sacks that micro-manage everything the team does. Too close to the forest to see the trees sometimes, myself included. The Vikings were on a magic carpet ride with Keenum, that can't be duplicated. Its a new year.
These latest moves where designed to rectify problems that could have continued to hurt the team going forward. Not sure why this should be anything other than applauded rather than some hand-wringing. Regardless of what the results are, the process was correct.
Read this for a different perspective:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...owl-puzzle
lol, no one said not having BRob was the reason we lost. You might want to re-read the posts to get the feel for what other fans actually think about the issue.
Ha, did I miss the gist of it? I thought it was that cutting Robison changed the team chemistry and all the recent moves seemed reactionary. Is that wrong? I wasn't talking about why they tied the Packers, my point was that nothing has really changed without Robison. At least that's what I thought you and ghost were referring to?
Neither PG nor I seemed to say that the recent moves were reactionary. She mentioned a nagging feeling that something is missing or could backfire. That is my question too, how will the players react to a "business" decision to cut a team guy that just took a paycut 2 years in a row. Not doom and gloom, but just a question or little nagging feeling.
Ok, so I did respond correctly to what was said: its fan sentimentality. The players know its a business and they can see the team is doing its best to win right now. Your 'nagging' feeling comes from not liking that Robison got cut, nothing you are seeing on the field. Ok, thanks for letting me know. Didn't realize how I felt until now.
No, you responded to a conversation with condescension and a know-it-all attitude. I know the players know it is business. But the players also have said there was something special about the locker room. Do they feel that way this year after seeing some very harsh business?
No it isn't because Robison got cut, or was old. It was that it seems a bit personal. So you can say it anyway you like it, but don't assume to know what others are thinking. Especially without actually reading the comments.
I like what the team is doing by signing TJ and the WR Robinson and cutting Carlson. That has nothing to do with BRob. But some felt if there was a need for more pass rush from the 3Tech depth, BRob may have been a logical guy to bring back.
Asking "Why not sign Robison instead of Johnson" overlooks the possibility the team did reach out and Robison said, "No thanks". I've heard some remarks that make me think his attitude might be, "to hell with that team's management".
IMO they signed Johnson because Richardson was gassed and they need someone else who can play 3T and still get some penetration when he is out. I wish Jalyn Holmes was able to fill that role, but apparently he isn't there yet.
PK decision was simple. I saw the game..
#3 WR: I think this could still be an issue and Robinson is just the next experiment.
Quote: @Jor-El said:
Asking "Why not sign Robison instead of Johnson" overlooks the possibility the team did reach out and Robison said, "No thanks". I've heard some remarks that make me think his attitude might be, "to hell with that team's management".
IMO they signed Johnson because Richardson was gassed and they need someone else who can play 3T and still get some penetration when he is out. I wish Jalyn Holmes was able to fill that role, but apparently he isn't there yet.
PK decision was simple. I saw the game..
#3 WR: I think this could still be an issue and Robinson is just the next experiment.
I agree. And the sentiment was "wish it was Robison" not why TJ?
Quote: @greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
The sentimentality of fans know no bounds. Brian Robison not being on this team doesn't have anything to do with anything other than losing what would have been a decent rotational DE. He was very much a leader of the football team, without a doubt. But the team was a missed FG away from being 2-0, not sure where this low level doom and gloom in this thread is coming from other than typical Viking's fan angst. We can be a group of sad sacks that micro-manage everything the team does. Too close to the forest to see the trees sometimes, myself included. The Vikings were on a magic carpet ride with Keenum, that can't be duplicated. Its a new year.
These latest moves where designed to rectify problems that could have continued to hurt the team going forward. Not sure why this should be anything other than applauded rather than some hand-wringing. Regardless of what the results are, the process was correct.
Read this for a different perspective:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...owl-puzzle
lol, no one said not having BRob was the reason we lost. You might want to re-read the posts to get the feel for what other fans actually think about the issue.
Ha, did I miss the gist of it? I thought it was that cutting Robison changed the team chemistry and all the recent moves seemed reactionary. Is that wrong? I wasn't talking about why they tied the Packers, my point was that nothing has really changed without Robison. At least that's what I thought you and ghost were referring to?
Neither PG nor I seemed to say that the recent moves were reactionary. She mentioned a nagging feeling that something is missing or could backfire. That is my question too, how will the players react to a "business" decision to cut a team guy that just took a paycut 2 years in a row. Not doom and gloom, but just a question or little nagging feeling.
Ok, so I did respond correctly to what was said: its fan sentimentality. The players know its a business and they can see the team is doing its best to win right now. Your 'nagging' feeling comes from not liking that Robison got cut, nothing you are seeing on the field. Ok, thanks for letting me know. Didn't realize how I felt until now.
No, you responded to a conversation with condescension and a know-it-all attitude. I know the players know it is business. But the players also have said there was something special about the locker room. Do they feel that way this year after seeing some very harsh business?
No it isn't because Robison got cut, or was old. It was that it seems a bit personal. So you can say it anyway you like it, but don't assume to know what others are thinking. Especially without actually reading the comments.
I like what the team is doing by signing TJ and the WR Robinson and cutting Carlson. That has nothing to do with BRob. But some felt if there was a need for more pass rush from the 3Tech depth, BRob may have been a logical guy to bring back.
I responded and called it fan sentimentality, which is what it was. There wasn't condescension, you read into that all by yourself. LOL, I read all the comments that's why I didn't know what you were talking about. They've handled the 3T depth by getting Johnson, a real DT which Robison isn't. And where have players said that the locker room isn't special now? Again, another purple-glasses inference by a fan.
Robison is gone and we all loved the guy, so let's not act that with POPS around that there isn't even a deeper fan sentimentality for his return that there would normally be. But they cut him for a reason and either he A) doesn't want to return or B ) he hasn't been asked to. DE depth with young talent is incredibly deep. Weatherly has been playing very well.
Just be happy B Rob had a great career and has his health, physical and mental
If his amazing locker room mojo was valuable, i’m sure the Pack would have tendred an offer & he would have accepted. Thats show biz
Im glad the Vikies are not standing still & owning up to mistakes and tweaking
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