Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Sure am happy looking at my 401k. I had little concern a Repub in the White House (and their historical fiscal policies) would be able to take what Obama did and juice the economy more on a forward basis.
Fiscally and regarding international politics I have leaned conservative for years. I think the country has gotten into some bad deals over the years. But I am by no means a nationalist like this guy is preaching.
I think relations with our Allies are a shambles, probably historical lows. It's a dangerous situation economically and politically as the red menace is there, it's growing as they invest in military technologies and missile man is lying in the weeds.
Not surprised to see the "what" Trump is doing, the "how" Trump is doing it is getting cheers from his camp. Peel back the layers and his approval ratings of positive (not surprisingly) are mainly from red voters.
For me? MY disapproval has grown over time. Both for Trump the man, those of his inner admin and people like Pence, Sesions etc.
These guys (and a few gals) couldn't be further away from my own personal values.
Looking for a new North Star to capture my vote in 2 years. Something to unify a US that imo is more divided now than I've seen it since Nixon and 68-72 years.
I loved watching The Donald on Celebrity Apprentice. I think the boardroom suits him better than the Oval Office.
You certainly can't tag Trump with the division in the US. He's guilty of a lot, but this rock was fractured when he took over...just that the media didn't want to tell that story .
Political, religious and cultural division has been part of this country since the civil war, but it hasn't been this bad since the Vietnam war. Trump didn't create the divide, but he's been its biggest contributor. There are Idiot-Americans on both extremes who live in echo chambers, can't hear truth, and fan the flames of the divide on the internet, especially in social media. No president before Trump has ever engaged in that nonsense. What makes Trump so bad is that he actually PARTICIPATES in it. It's why he was elected. He plays the game. His supporters LOVE him for it.
These are the same people who repeatedly call for the firing of Shepherd Smith on Fox News because he actually tells the truth. They hate that. Trump actually stumbled upon the truth once during the campaign by saying "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot someone and not lose any voters." Now, this was an incredible insult to his base, but he was exactly right. From them, you'd probably hear that we're not getting the full story; it's just the media making it sound worse than it really is!
It wasn't that long ago in a town hall meeting when one Idiot-American said "I can’t trust Obama. I have read about him, and he’s not, he’s not — he’s an Arab.” The response by a real American hero, whom Trump would later mock, was “No ma’am, he's a decent family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what this campaign is all about.” He is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as President. If I didn’t think I’d be one heck of a better President I wouldn’t be running, and that’s the point. I admire Sen. Obama and his accomplishments, I will respect him. I want everyone to be respectful, and let’s make sure we are. Because that’s the way politics should be conducted in America."
Can you imagine the Trump saying something like that? Of course not. His base would be furious.
We should stop normalizing this man as if he merits some sort of evaluation of his achievements, as if he weren't a dangerously incompetent pig and an embarrassment to American history.
I am not going to defend trump, but I am not going to ignore the racial mess that blew up under obama through his incompetent or intentional mid handling of the situations. His actions and words led to good cops getting injured or killed. Not every black person is guilty, bUT they aren't all innocent either and he never let the process play out without throwing gas on the fire in some way. I think he was a pretty worthless president who left the country no better than. He found it and possibly worse.
LMAO
Obama was a horrible president who spied on journalists and the opposite party.
A candidate that ran for president in 2016 contacted a foreign spy who worked with Russian agents to influence the election. Yet we have a special counsel looking to hang the candidate who didn’t do that.
With all of his achievements - MSM is 92% negative.
Social media killed the MSM cabal.
We want more Trump. Not more swamp.
We certainly don’t want to bring in a socialist bartender who thinks the low unemployment rate is attributed to people working two jobs. The democrats can have her.
We should stop normalizing this man as if he merits some sort of evaluation of his achievements, as if he weren't a dangerously incompetent pig and an embarrassment to American history.
Such a shame the Dems or Republicans couldn't come-up with something better than this.
The fact we have one side applauding and the other side ridiculing and angry captures the USA in 2018. I suspect it will be the same in 2020 - Polarized
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
We should stop normalizing this man as if he merits some sort of evaluation of his achievements, as if he weren't a dangerously incompetent pig and an embarrassment to American history.
Such a shame the Dems or Republicans couldn't come-up with something better than this.
The fact we have one side applauding and the other side ridiculing and angry captures the USA in 2018. I suspect it will be the same in 2020 - Polarized
It's a shame we are still really only a 2 party nation when the majority of the nation doesn't really believe in what either party is spewing.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
We should stop normalizing this man as if he merits some sort of evaluation of his achievements, as if he weren't a dangerously incompetent pig and an embarrassment to American history.
Such a shame the Dems or Republicans couldn't come-up with something better than this.
The fact we have one side applauding and the other side ridiculing and angry captures the USA in 2018. I suspect it will be the same in 2020 - Polarized
It's a shame we are still really only a 2 party nation when the majority of the nation doesn't really believe in what either party is spewing.
There is a '3rd party'..... the precious independents. (that went Trump in '16 by +4% link)
I'm an Independent (changed registration from GOP. Good news is Georgia is an open primary State...so I can still vote for most conservative  )
And don't forget the Green Party. (last we heard from their demands...Trump increased his vote total. lol)
Satisfaction with the direction of the country last month matched a 12 year high, per Gallup.
Satisfaction up among Repubs/Indy's...steady with Dems.
Pull quote: "Now, at the midpoint of 2018, as the United States continues to enjoy a nine-year-long economic expansion, the number of Americans finding satisfaction in the country's direction is on the rise. This reflects more than a growing comfort with Donald Trump as president; growth in satisfaction has outstripped growth in Trump's approval rating. And it is more than economic good news -- the percentage satisfied has risen more over the past two months than the percentage who think the economy is in good shape or the percentage who think it's a good time to find a quality job."
^^ This was released before the 4.1 GDP news.
"Stop normalizing"...."Such a shame...polarized"....."It's a shame". lol
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
We should stop normalizing this man as if he merits some sort of evaluation of his achievements, as if he weren't a dangerously incompetent pig and an embarrassment to American history.
Such a shame the Dems or Republicans couldn't come-up with something better than this.
The fact we have one side applauding and the other side ridiculing and angry captures the USA in 2018. I suspect it will be the same in 2020 - Polarized
It's a shame we are still really only a 2 party nation when the majority of the nation doesn't really believe in what either party is spewing.
There is a '3rd party'..... the precious independents. (that went Trump in '16 by +4% link)
I'm an Independent (changed registration from GOP. Good news is Georgia is an open primary State...so I can still vote for most conservative )
And don't forget the Green Party. (last we heard from their demands... Trump increased his vote total. lol)
Satisfaction with the direction of the country last month matched a 12 year high, per Gallup.
Satisfaction up among Repubs/Indy's...steady with Dems.
Pull quote: "Now, at the midpoint of 2018, as the United States continues to enjoy a nine-year-long economic expansion, the number of Americans finding satisfaction in the country's direction is on the rise. This reflects more than a growing comfort with Donald Trump as president; growth in satisfaction has outstripped growth in Trump's approval rating. And it is more than economic good news -- the percentage satisfied has risen more over the past two months than the percentage who think the economy is in good shape or the percentage who think it's a good time to find a quality job."
^^ This was released before the 4.1 GDP news.
"Stop normalizing"...."Such a shame...polarized"....."It's a shame". lol
good thing as an independent that you left SD. this states Republican party (basically everybody elected to Pierre) just killed an effort for an open primary this year. They have to know that the primary is the only thing keeping so many people as registered republicans and keeps their party in control. they are also trying to make it harder to get stuff initiated onto the ballot through a signature campaign, some of this i agree with, but for the most part our state leadership is showing more like the criminal right, than the peoples right.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ savannahskol said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
We should stop normalizing this man as if he merits some sort of evaluation of his achievements, as if he weren't a dangerously incompetent pig and an embarrassment to American history.
Such a shame the Dems or Republicans couldn't come-up with something better than this.
The fact we have one side applauding and the other side ridiculing and angry captures the USA in 2018. I suspect it will be the same in 2020 - Polarized
It's a shame we are still really only a 2 party nation when the majority of the nation doesn't really believe in what either party is spewing.
There is a '3rd party'..... the precious independents. (that went Trump in '16 by +4% link)
I'm an Independent (changed registration from GOP. Good news is Georgia is an open primary State...so I can still vote for most conservative )
And don't forget the Green Party. (last we heard from their demands... Trump increased his vote total. lol)
Satisfaction with the direction of the country last month matched a 12 year high, per Gallup.
Satisfaction up among Repubs/Indy's...steady with Dems.
Pull quote: "Now, at the midpoint of 2018, as the United States continues to enjoy a nine-year-long economic expansion, the number of Americans finding satisfaction in the country's direction is on the rise. This reflects more than a growing comfort with Donald Trump as president; growth in satisfaction has outstripped growth in Trump's approval rating. And it is more than economic good news -- the percentage satisfied has risen more over the past two months than the percentage who think the economy is in good shape or the percentage who think it's a good time to find a quality job."
^^ This was released before the 4.1 GDP news.
"Stop normalizing"...."Such a shame...polarized"....."It's a shame". lol
good thing as an independent that you left SD. this states Republican party (basically everybody elected to Pierre) just killed an effort for an open primary this year. They have to know that the primary is the only thing keeping so many people as registered republicans and keeps their party in control. they are also trying to make it harder to get stuff initiated onto the ballot through a signature campaign, some of this i agree with, but for the most part our state leadership is showing more like the criminal right, than the peoples right.
TBH, I'd prefer being in a closed party state. Less shenanigans. I understand my former State's (SD) rationale.
This opinion states it well. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2.../11938287/
For instance.... if during the primaries, my favorite conservative is enjoying a double-digit pre-election lead (doesn't need my vote)... I just might vote for the least desirable liberal (that might be in a tight race where my vote might make a difference) candidate (in hopes they win), in order to make it easier in the general election for my most preferred conservative candidate, who I didn't vote for. And the same thing happens, in reverse ideology.
I don't know what the "correct" system is. Tough one, altho as I said I'm free to still vote 'most conservative', which I'm thankful for with my party switch.
But ultimately I think registered Dem's should solely be responsible for nominating their party's chosen; and GOP'ers versa-vice. (closed primary)
IOW, fringe candidates have a better chance in an open primary State. But historically, it's made little difference.
Your "signature ballot campaign" reference? Is that the same as "ballot initiatives"?
Meh... those things always seem to get shot down by judges (upon ballot success).... or upon jurist passage subsequently then need/require 2/3 majority confirmation by State legislatures.
They (ballot initiatives) get people to the polls, but are rarely enacted into law.
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