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How Many Irons Can He Have Burning?
#1
Trump turns his death ray on Iran once again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz

I can get behind him wanting to fix all the shitty deals of the past,  but can we get one done before we go after the next?  Nafta, China, Europe, the Middle East.... honestly the only people that arent pissed at the US right now are probably the Israelis.

and honestly,  if we look at how shitty things got in the last few Arab countries that the US helped topple their leadership.... do we really want to destabilize yet another radical Islam stronghold? Or maybe that is the plan,  how better to kill OPEC than to fracture the countries that run it back into tribes that do nothing but fight each other, or at least are much easier to control?
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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#2
Trump's approach is what many voters/supporters  have hoped for. 
(and I was a Cruz guy)

He's got a whole branch of govt at his disposal. Put em to work!   Earn your swamp incomes. 

Who dat!  sez to only have  'one pan in the fire'.  
Who dat!  "the only people that aren't pissed at the US right now"   
                Really?  Trump not only (wisely) nixed the Obama Iran Deal (by XO...cuz Obama by-passed Congress by XO), now he's (Trump)
                             upping the ante.  Iran's people are (again)  primed/ready to overthrow the mullahs.  If they do, this time... they'll have a friend in D.C. 
Trust me, Jimmy.  We can handle the Norks and Iranians, simultaneously.  We're the US.  Give us another!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...5626609666

Plus... most important... he's a businessman.  "Get. Shit. Did."  is what we like to say in Clark County.  Mebbe different in Codington.  Smile  
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#3
Quote: @savannahskol said:
Trump's approach is what many voters/supporters  have hoped for. 
(and I was a Cruz guy)

He's got a whole branch of govt at his disposal. Put em to work!   Earn your swamp incomes. 

Who dat!  sez to only have  'one pan in the fire'.  
Who dat!  "the only people that aren't pissed at the US right now"   
                Really?  Trump not only (wisely) nixed the Obama Iran Deal (by XO...cuz Obama by-passed Congress by XO), now he's (Trump)
                             upping the ante.  Iran's people are (again)  primed/ready to overthrow the mullahs.  If they do, this time... they'll have a friend in D.C. 
Trust me, Jimmy.  We can handle the Norks and Iranians, simultaneously.  We're the US.  Give us another!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...5626609666

Plus... most important... he's a businessman.  "Get. Shit. Did."  is what we like to say in Clark County.  Mebbe different in Codington.  Smile  
I would like to see something get done.  Thus far he hasn't put anything to bed.  Healthcare is still a mess,  no border improvements,   nkorea is just quiet because they are reloading ( we've seen this quiet spell before from lil kim)  trade is a mess, Russia is still Russia and now we are back to iran.  Like I said,  I would be more comfortable with a multi directional approach if he had shown that he could handle 1 direction.  

people from most any county out here still are more about getting the job done over how many jobs you've got started.  He is losing more support by the day in Congress which will make it even harder to address his core campaign issues of healthcare and immigration.   He can't seem to XO a fix for those issues.
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#4
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@savannahskol said:
Trump's approach is what many voters/supporters  have hoped for. 
(and I was a Cruz guy)

He's got a whole branch of govt at his disposal. Put em to work!   Earn your swamp incomes. 

Who dat!  sez to only have  'one pan in the fire'.  
Who dat!  "the only people that aren't pissed at the US right now"   
                Really?  Trump not only (wisely) nixed the Obama Iran Deal (by XO...cuz Obama by-passed Congress by XO), now he's (Trump)
                             upping the ante.  Iran's people are (again)  primed/ready to overthrow the mullahs.  If they do, this time... they'll have a friend in D.C. 
Trust me, Jimmy.  We can handle the Norks and Iranians, simultaneously.  We're the US.  Give us another!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...5626609666

Plus... most important... he's a businessman.  "Get. Shit. Did."  is what we like to say in Clark County.  Mebbe different in Codington.  Smile  
I would like to see something get done.  Thus far he hasn't put anything to bed.  Healthcare is still a mess,  no border improvements,   nkorea is just quiet because they are reloading ( we've seen this quiet spell before from lil kim)  trade is a mess, Russia is still Russia and now we are back to iran.  Like I said,  I would be more comfortable with a multi directional approach if he had shown that he could handle 1 direction.  

people from most any county out here still are more about getting the job done over how many jobs you've got started.  He is losing more support by the day in Congress which will make it even harder to address his core campaign issues of healthcare and immigration.   He can't seem to XO a fix for those issues.
Huh.  

Last January, the Heritage Foundation (on the list of most conservative sites/foundations/think tanks) rated Trump's first year the most conservatively effective... even more than Reagan's.
https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-ad...mendations  

I could list the Trump achievements here, but they're in the link for you to read.  

We're half a year past that, but the achievements keep rolling in.  Most importantly, the tax-cuts, since then.  

Even today... a new EU trade agreement announced (largely under the radar) that no-one saw coming.  
Good news for soybean farmers. 



The market indexes ROARED after the news today.  

Is Trump making me nervous with tariffs?  Yes... but I'm convinced it's the Art of the Deal.  
Short term loss for long term gain.  He's alluded to that strategy, pled for patience.    
Reported recently he'll sign legislation giving farmers 12 B in hardship relief from the tariffs he's imposed, indicating he's sensitive to harm caused by his tough negotiating talk. 
Today, he proposed a ZERO tariff trade goal... with EVERYBODY, including the Chinese.  
You have to start negotiations from a position of strength.  He (just today) did that, with the EU.   

Some criticism?  
Trump should have also never signed the Omnibus budget, without more reductions in spending. 
He rationalized it with the huge increases in military spending, that he wanted.  

Early reports are that reports of GDP this Friday will be north of 4%.  Obama never touched 3%, in 8 years.  
Some regional feds (  Smile )  have forecast close to 5% GDP!

Unemployment at historic lows...minority unemployment at historic lows... the more important labor participation rate at record high... virtually no 
negative economic indicators to be reported.  

AND, almost every poll has Trump GAINING in popularity/rating... even after a BRUTAL msm assault week re: Helsinki/Treason/Russia.  



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#5
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@savannahskol said:
Trump's approach is what many voters/supporters  have hoped for. 
(and I was a Cruz guy)

He's got a whole branch of govt at his disposal. Put em to work!   Earn your swamp incomes. 

Who dat!  sez to only have  'one pan in the fire'.  
Who dat!  "the only people that aren't pissed at the US right now"   
                Really?  Trump not only (wisely) nixed the Obama Iran Deal (by XO...cuz Obama by-passed Congress by XO), now he's (Trump)
                             upping the ante.  Iran's people are (again)  primed/ready to overthrow the mullahs.  If they do, this time... they'll have a friend in D.C. 
Trust me, Jimmy.  We can handle the Norks and Iranians, simultaneously.  We're the US.  Give us another!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...5626609666

Plus... most important... he's a businessman.  "Get. Shit. Did."  is what we like to say in Clark County.  Mebbe different in Codington.  Smile  
I would like to see something get done.  Thus far he hasn't put anything to bed.  Healthcare is still a mess,  no border improvements,   nkorea is just quiet because they are reloading ( we've seen this quiet spell before from lil kim)  trade is a mess, Russia is still Russia and now we are back to iran.  Like I said,  I would be more comfortable with a multi directional approach if he had shown that he could handle 1 direction.  

people from most any county out here still are more about getting the job done over how many jobs you've got started.  He is losing more support by the day in Congress which will make it even harder to address his core campaign issues of healthcare and immigration.   He can't seem to XO a fix for those issues.
Huh.  

Last January, the Heritage Foundation (on the list of most conservative sites/foundations/think tanks) rated Trump's first year the most conservatively effective... even more than Reagan's.
https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-ad...mendations  

I could list the Trump achievements here, but they're in the link for you to read.  

We're half a year past that, but the achievements keep rolling in.  Most importantly, the tax-cuts, since then.  

Even today... a new EU trade agreement announced (largely under the radar) that no-one saw coming.  
Good news for soybean farmers. 



The market indexes ROARED after the news today.  

Is Trump making me nervous with tariffs?  Yes... but I'm convinced it's the Art of the Deal.  
Short term loss for long term gain.  He's alluded to that strategy, pled for patience.    
Reported recently he'll sign legislation giving farmers 12 B in hardship relief from the tariffs he's imposed, indicating he's sensitive to harm caused by his tough negotiating talk. 
Today, he proposed a ZERO tariff trade goal... with EVERYBODY, including the Chinese.  
You have to start negotiations from a position of strength.  He (just today) did that, with the EU.   

Some criticism?  
Trump should have also never signed the Omnibus budget, without more reductions in spending. 
He rationalized it with the huge increases in military spending, that he wanted.  

Early reports are that reports of GDP this Friday will be north of 4%.  Obama never touched 3%, in 8 years.  
Some regional feds (  Smile )  have forecast close to 5% GDP!

Unemployment at historic lows...minority unemployment at historic lows... the more important labor participation rate at record high... virtually no 
negative economic indicators to be reported.  

AND, almost every poll has Trump GAINING in popularity/rating... even after a BRUTAL msm assault week re: Helsinki/Treason/Russia.  



Honestly I am not a huge Trump fan but you have to be impressed with the way he has handled many things.  I think what the approval rating is telling us is what many conservatives have known for a long time.  The media is biased and unfair the democrats have yelled racism and bigotry one too many times against very good people in the past (every republican candidate since Goldwater) and we just are not listening anymore.  The media is befuddled because the normal playbook against a republican candidate, (gin up some out of context quote, repeat over and over something stupid they have said,  or some stupid scandal and force them to resign) just does not work with Trump he does not care and the media has no other ideas.  The interesting thing is that free thinkers on both sides of the aisle are just tuning the media out, seeing the biased coverage and watching the results of Trumps actions and liking what they see.
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#6
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@savannahskol said:
Trump's approach is what many voters/supporters  have hoped for. 
(and I was a Cruz guy)

He's got a whole branch of govt at his disposal. Put em to work!   Earn your swamp incomes. 

Who dat!  sez to only have  'one pan in the fire'.  
Who dat!  "the only people that aren't pissed at the US right now"   
                Really?  Trump not only (wisely) nixed the Obama Iran Deal (by XO...cuz Obama by-passed Congress by XO), now he's (Trump)
                             upping the ante.  Iran's people are (again)  primed/ready to overthrow the mullahs.  If they do, this time... they'll have a friend in D.C. 
Trust me, Jimmy.  We can handle the Norks and Iranians, simultaneously.  We're the US.  Give us another!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...5626609666

Plus... most important... he's a businessman.  "Get. Shit. Did."  is what we like to say in Clark County.  Mebbe different in Codington.  Smile  
I would like to see something get done.  Thus far he hasn't put anything to bed.  Healthcare is still a mess,  no border improvements,   nkorea is just quiet because they are reloading ( we've seen this quiet spell before from lil kim)  trade is a mess, Russia is still Russia and now we are back to iran.  Like I said,  I would be more comfortable with a multi directional approach if he had shown that he could handle 1 direction.  

people from most any county out here still are more about getting the job done over how many jobs you've got started.  He is losing more support by the day in Congress which will make it even harder to address his core campaign issues of healthcare and immigration.   He can't seem to XO a fix for those issues.
Huh.  

Last January, the Heritage Foundation (on the list of most conservative sites/foundations/think tanks) rated Trump's first year the most conservatively effective... even more than Reagan's.
https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-ad...mendations  

I could list the Trump achievements here, but they're in the link for you to read.  

We're half a year past that, but the achievements keep rolling in.  Most importantly, the tax-cuts, since then.  

Even today... a new EU trade agreement announced (largely under the radar) that no-one saw coming.  
Good news for soybean farmers. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYAqZpAal2s

The market indexes ROARED after the news today.  

Is Trump making me nervous with tariffs?  Yes... but I'm convinced it's the Art of the Deal.  
Short term loss for long term gain.  He's alluded to that strategy, pled for patience.    
Reported recently he'll sign legislation giving farmers 12 B in hardship relief from the tariffs he's imposed, indicating he's sensitive to harm caused by his tough negotiating talk. 
Today, he proposed a ZERO tariff trade goal... with EVERYBODY, including the Chinese.  
You have to start negotiations from a position of strength.  He (just today) did that, with the EU.   

Some criticism?  
Trump should have also never signed the Omnibus budget, without more reductions in spending. 
He rationalized it with the huge increases in military spending, that he wanted.  

Early reports are that reports of GDP this Friday will be north of 4%.  Obama never touched 3%, in 8 years.  
Some regional feds (Atlanta, cuz we're regionally pro-American Smile )  have forecast close to 5% GDP!

Unemployment at historic lows...minority unemployment at historic lows... the more important labor participation rate at record high... virtually no 
negative economic indicators to be reported.  

AND, almost every poll has Trump GAINING in popularity/rating... even after a BRUTAL msm assault week re: Helsinki/Treason/Russia.  



"Link could not be found"

I'm sure he's got fans,  but the core issues he ram on are not getting hamdled.  (Healthcare amd immigration reform)

As far as the 12 B for farmers...lets see how his administration defines farmers,  considering his choice for sec of AG....I'm sure that 12 B will largely not be in the pockets of the small family farmers who are hurting the worst amd instead will be gobbled up by the corporations that are using farming as tax shelters.  That won't help rural America as it's advertised.

Time will telll how effective trump is,  but I am not seeing the big wins as productile and or sustainable for now.
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#7
Sure am happy looking at my 401k. I had little concern a Repub in the White House (and their historical fiscal policies) would be able to take what Obama did and juice the economy more on a forward basis.

Fiscally and regarding international politics I have leaned conservative for years. I think the country has gotten into some bad deals over the years. But I am by no means a nationalist like this guy is preaching. 

I think relations with our Allies are a shambles, probably historical lows. It's a dangerous situation economically and politically as the red menace is there, it's growing as they invest in military technologies and missile man is lying in the weeds. 

Not surprised to see the "what" Trump is doing, the "how" Trump is doing it is getting cheers from his camp. Peel back the layers and his approval ratings of positive (not surprisingly) are mainly from red voters. 

For me? MY disapproval has grown over time. Both for Trump the man, those of his inner admin and people like Pence, Sesions etc.

These guys (and a few gals) couldn't be further away from my own personal values.

Looking for a new North Star to capture my vote in 2 years. Something to unify a US that imo is more divided now than I've seen it since Nixon and 68-72 years. 

I loved watching The Donald on Celebrity Apprentice. I think the boardroom suits him better than the Oval Office. 

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Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Sure am happy looking at my 401k. I had little concern a Repub in the White House (and their historical fiscal policies) would be able to take what Obama did and juice the economy more on a forward basis.

Fiscally and regarding international politics I have leaned conservative for years. I think the country has gotten into some bad deals over the years. But I am by no means a nationalist like this guy is preaching. 

I think relations with our Allies are a shambles, probably historical lows. It's a dangerous situation economically and politically as the red menace is there, it's growing as they invest in military technologies and missile man is lying in the weeds. 

Not surprised to see the "what" Trump is doing, the "how" Trump is doing it is getting cheers from his camp. Peel back the layers and his approval ratings of positive (not surprisingly) are mainly from red voters. 

For me? MY disapproval has grown over time. Both for Trump the man, those of his inner admin and people like Pence, Sesions etc.

These guys (and a few gals) couldn't be further away from my own personal values.

Looking for a new North Star to capture my vote in 2 years. Something to unify a US that imo is more divided now than I've seen it since Nixon and 68-72 years. 

I loved watching The Donald on Celebrity Apprentice. I think the boardroom suits him better than the Oval Office. 
You certainly can't tag Trump with the division in the US.  He's guilty of a lot,  but this rock was fractured when he took over...just that the media didn't want to tell that story .
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#9
the Democrats have no platform on the economy only tired socialist slogans with no way to fund them
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#10
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@purplefaithful said:
Sure am happy looking at my 401k. I had little concern a Repub in the White House (and their historical fiscal policies) would be able to take what Obama did and juice the economy more on a forward basis.

Fiscally and regarding international politics I have leaned conservative for years. I think the country has gotten into some bad deals over the years. But I am by no means a nationalist like this guy is preaching. 

I think relations with our Allies are a shambles, probably historical lows. It's a dangerous situation economically and politically as the red menace is there, it's growing as they invest in military technologies and missile man is lying in the weeds. 

Not surprised to see the "what" Trump is doing, the "how" Trump is doing it is getting cheers from his camp. Peel back the layers and his approval ratings of positive (not surprisingly) are mainly from red voters. 

For me? MY disapproval has grown over time. Both for Trump the man, those of his inner admin and people like Pence, Sesions etc.

These guys (and a few gals) couldn't be further away from my own personal values.

Looking for a new North Star to capture my vote in 2 years. Something to unify a US that imo is more divided now than I've seen it since Nixon and 68-72 years. 

I loved watching The Donald on Celebrity Apprentice. I think the boardroom suits him better than the Oval Office. 
You certainly can't tag Trump with the division in the US.  He's guilty of a lot,  but this rock was fractured when he took over...just that the media didn't want to tell that story .
Political, religious and cultural division has been part of this country since the civil war, but it hasn't been this bad since the Vietnam war. Trump didn't create the divide, but he's been its biggest contributor. There are Idiot-Americans on both extremes who live in echo chambers, can't hear truth, and fan the flames of the divide on the internet, especially in social media. No president before Trump has ever engaged in that nonsense. What makes Trump so bad is that he actually PARTICIPATES in it. It's why he was elected. He plays the game. His supporters LOVE him for it.

These are the same people who repeatedly call for the firing of Shepherd Smith on Fox News because he actually tells the truth. They hate that. Trump actually stumbled upon the truth once during the campaign by saying "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot someone and not lose any voters." Now, this was an incredible insult to his base, but he was exactly right. From them, you'd probably hear that we're not getting the full story; it's just the media making it sound worse than it really is!

It wasn't that long ago in a town hall meeting when one Idiot-American said "I can’t trust Obama. I have read about him, and he’s not, he’s not — he’s an Arab.” The response by a real American hero, whom Trump would later mock, was “No ma’am, he's a decent family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what this campaign is all about.” He is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as President. If I didn’t think I’d be one heck of a better President I wouldn’t be running, and that’s the point. I admire Sen. Obama and his accomplishments, I will respect him. I want everyone to be respectful, and let’s make sure we are. Because that’s the way politics should be conducted in America."
Can you imagine the Trump saying something like that? Of course not. His base would be furious. 
We should stop normalizing this man as if he merits some sort of evaluation of his achievements, as if he weren't a dangerously incompetent pig and an embarrassment to American history. 
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