Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I also think many of "mental health professionals" are likely not nearly educated enough to honestly diagnose an issue and that most of them should not be able to prescribe medications to try and "control" something that they really arent equipped to diagnose to begin with.
That's a hell of a statement right there.
For me personally if it weren't for mental health professionals.... I would not be here today. For absolute certainty.
not saying that there arent real professionals out there doing good work, but the whole mental health crisis is out of whack.
Ever see the side effects for anti-depressants ?? maybe the FDA may ought to look into them alot more before allowing them... when the most severe side effect is suicidal thoughts from an anti depressant, something is seriously wrong
and they are handed out like candy. anti depressants are the biggest item that drug seekers are after outside of pain killers and doctors dont seem to have any issue prescribing them. a few years back a buddy of mine was working for a chain of pharmacies out in california and he said that nearly every single person that came into their pharms had a script for prozac, he said they went through more prozac in a week in cali than what he pushed out in a year in sioux falls,sd. yea he was in a more populated area... but that was rediculous.
Well, I guess that explains Cali...
I also think outside the box a lot, I think you need to look at all the GMO foods, and Fluoride in water and see the harm they do to the human brain as well.
Well we certainly are a country dependent on chemicals
Can't imagine the scale of the Bayer/Monsanto merger. I am sure we are the biggest market for that new monopoly.
Quote: @Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I also think many of "mental health professionals" are likely not nearly educated enough to honestly diagnose an issue and that most of them should not be able to prescribe medications to try and "control" something that they really arent equipped to diagnose to begin with.
That's a hell of a statement right there.
For me personally if it weren't for mental health professionals.... I would not be here today. For absolute certainty.
not saying that there arent real professionals out there doing good work, but the whole mental health crisis is out of whack.
Ever see the side effects for anti-depressants ?? maybe the FDA may ought to look into them alot more before allowing them... when the most severe side effect is suicidal thoughts from an anti depressant, something is seriously wrong
and they are handed out like candy. anti depressants are the biggest item that drug seekers are after outside of pain killers and doctors dont seem to have any issue prescribing them. a few years back a buddy of mine was working for a chain of pharmacies out in california and he said that nearly every single person that came into their pharms had a script for prozac, he said they went through more prozac in a week in cali than what he pushed out in a year in sioux falls,sd. yea he was in a more populated area... but that was rediculous.
Well, I guess that explains Cali...
I also think outside the box a lot, I think you need to look at all the GMO foods, and Fluoride in water and see the harm they do to the human brain as well.
I dont know how outside the box those items are, they have been discussed for year. However I dont know that I subscribe to the fluoride concerns. GMOs are a debatable matter though. I am sure that air is bad for some people, there is always going to be something wrong with a minority of people that calls into question the use of products for the majority of people or products that are deemed safe that as science catches up we discover that they werent as safe as we thought... doesnt mean that we shouldnt have used them at all though.
Medications are a complex issue. And some are being handed out like candy no doubt. Just like opioids are an issue, I would go across the board and look into other medications. Side effects are a huge part of the problem. You take one medication that has certain side effects, so you are prescribed another one to counteract those side effects. And then some medications interact with each other. Some people build up a tolerance to a medication over time or the medication becomes ineffective. I hate that there are commercials for medications. The list of side effects is ridiculous. I think that's where some of the problems come from. It is interesting that you can go online and type in your medications and find out how they interact. It also depends on the individual. Is the individual looks for a solution to the root of the problem or a mask for the symptoms. Some people want a quick fix but in reality there isn't one.
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
Medications are a complex issue. And some are being handed out like candy no doubt. Just like opioids are an issue, I would go across the board and look into other medications. Side effects are a huge part of the problem. You take one medication that has certain side effects, so you are prescribed another one to counteract those side effects. And then some medications interact with each other. Some people build up a tolerance to a medication over time or the medication becomes ineffective. I hate that there are commercials for medications. The list of side effects is ridiculous. I think that's where some of the problems come from. It is interesting that you can go online and type in your medications and find out how they interact. It also depends on the individual. Is the individual looks for a solution to the root of the problem or a mask for the symptoms. Some people want a quick fix but in reality there isn't one.
most people want a pill.... otherwise they may have to change their life style to stay alive.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I also think many of "mental health professionals" are likely not nearly educated enough to honestly diagnose an issue and that most of them should not be able to prescribe medications to try and "control" something that they really arent equipped to diagnose to begin with.
That's a hell of a statement right there.
For me personally if it weren't for mental health professionals.... I would not be here today. For absolute certainty.
not saying that there arent real professionals out there doing good work, but the whole mental health crisis is out of whack.
Ever see the side effects for anti-depressants ?? maybe the FDA may ought to look into them alot more before allowing them... when the most severe side effect is suicidal thoughts from an anti depressant, something is seriously wrong
and they are handed out like candy. anti depressants are the biggest item that drug seekers are after outside of pain killers and doctors dont seem to have any issue prescribing them. a few years back a buddy of mine was working for a chain of pharmacies out in california and he said that nearly every single person that came into their pharms had a script for prozac, he said they went through more prozac in a week in cali than what he pushed out in a year in sioux falls,sd. yea he was in a more populated area... but that was rediculous.
Well, I guess that explains Cali...
I also think outside the box a lot, I think you need to look at all the GMO foods, and Fluoride in water and see the harm they do to the human brain as well.
I dont know how outside the box those items are, they have been discussed for year. However I dont know that I subscribe to the fluoride concerns. GMOs are a debatable matter though. I am sure that air is bad for some people, there is always going to be something wrong with a minority of people that calls into question the use of products for the majority of people or products that are deemed safe that as science catches up we discover that they werent as safe as we thought... doesnt mean that we shouldnt have used them at all though.
Click the link I provided above to show you the danger of ingesting fluoride into your body
Quote: @Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I also think many of "mental health professionals" are likely not nearly educated enough to honestly diagnose an issue and that most of them should not be able to prescribe medications to try and "control" something that they really arent equipped to diagnose to begin with.
That's a hell of a statement right there.
For me personally if it weren't for mental health professionals.... I would not be here today. For absolute certainty.
not saying that there arent real professionals out there doing good work, but the whole mental health crisis is out of whack.
Ever see the side effects for anti-depressants ?? maybe the FDA may ought to look into them alot more before allowing them... when the most severe side effect is suicidal thoughts from an anti depressant, something is seriously wrong
and they are handed out like candy. anti depressants are the biggest item that drug seekers are after outside of pain killers and doctors dont seem to have any issue prescribing them. a few years back a buddy of mine was working for a chain of pharmacies out in california and he said that nearly every single person that came into their pharms had a script for prozac, he said they went through more prozac in a week in cali than what he pushed out in a year in sioux falls,sd. yea he was in a more populated area... but that was rediculous.
Well, I guess that explains Cali...
I also think outside the box a lot, I think you need to look at all the GMO foods, and Fluoride in water and see the harm they do to the human brain as well.
I dont know how outside the box those items are, they have been discussed for year. However I dont know that I subscribe to the fluoride concerns. GMOs are a debatable matter though. I am sure that air is bad for some people, there is always going to be something wrong with a minority of people that calls into question the use of products for the majority of people or products that are deemed safe that as science catches up we discover that they werent as safe as we thought... doesnt mean that we shouldnt have used them at all though.
Click the link I provided above to show you the danger of ingesting fluoride into your body
you dont think the anit vaccine crowd has similar studies to support their claims? anything in excess is bad for our health, but that doesnt mean that it isnt helpful or even essential in low amounts. I am in the water industry, I have sat/read through countless studies, claims, seminars, etc on these public health scares. want to talk about lead laws... I could go all day on the stupidity of some of this shit.
heres a report to the contrary on the links between adhd and flouride. seems the study that is the main driving point for the anti flouride crowd is a bit skewed in their data collection and ruling out other possible causes for their findings.
https://www.nature.com/articles/sj.bdj.2017.988
Quote: @Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I also think many of "mental health professionals" are likely not nearly educated enough to honestly diagnose an issue and that most of them should not be able to prescribe medications to try and "control" something that they really arent equipped to diagnose to begin with.
That's a hell of a statement right there.
For me personally if it weren't for mental health professionals.... I would not be here today. For absolute certainty.
not saying that there arent real professionals out there doing good work, but the whole mental health crisis is out of whack.
Ever see the side effects for anti-depressants ?? maybe the FDA may ought to look into them alot more before allowing them... when the most severe side effect is suicidal thoughts from an anti depressant, something is seriously wrong
and they are handed out like candy. anti depressants are the biggest item that drug seekers are after outside of pain killers and doctors dont seem to have any issue prescribing them. a few years back a buddy of mine was working for a chain of pharmacies out in california and he said that nearly every single person that came into their pharms had a script for prozac, he said they went through more prozac in a week in cali than what he pushed out in a year in sioux falls,sd. yea he was in a more populated area... but that was rediculous.
Well, I guess that explains Cali...
I also think outside the box a lot, I think you need to look at all the GMO foods, and Fluoride in water and see the harm they do to the human brain as well.
I can't speak for California but I'll speak for my state. Florida has a huge pill problem. They changed some laws and increased difficulty of obtaining pills. Mostly pain meds. Cracked down on pill mill doctor's. We had people coming in for out of state to our "pain clinics". It was an embarrassment. Still a big problem and still touches alot of lives. At least some who were profiting off it are being held accountable. Sorry if you are handing out 2-3 months "supplies" 250+ pills to out of staters you barely checked you are no longer a doctor. You're a pusher.
But to the topic of anti-depressants. We do a woeful job of helping mentally ill. If you have no means of support or health insurance. As alot of them don't. They pick you up off the street or something. The officers determine your mental state. They baker act you. Then the doctors have 72 hours to get you better. Which means usually sending you on your way with a bottle of pills. They will give you a referral to mental health sevices. Get in line for weeks if not months for outpatient with no money. The state run mental hospitals we have are so few and underfunded they are reduced to mostly getting people competent to stand trial. They have 7 hospitals with around 400-600 capacity being the biggest. That's less then 4000 beds. For a state of nearly 21 million. So they keep trying to numb the symptoms insted of treating the causes. It's a sad state of the mental health problem that I'm sure is not confined to my state. We are maybe just worse at it. So you wonder why after years or less maybe of the cycle. Baker acted, released, drugged but still confused. You say screw it and check yourself out. Permanently.
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