Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ greediron said:
When it comes to home schooling and vaccines, I think it is more about who you trust to raise your children. Do you trust the government and all the corrupt money involved, or do you trust yourself to find a solution that is right for your family. You mention that she isn't qualified? Why? Are you qualified to make that judgment? Education has much more to do with caring about the child rather than phds and intelligence. And they are her children, not yours.
It might be arrogant of me but I feel pretty qualified to say if somebody isn't qualified to home school their kids, I can't necessarily say who is qualified, bit I can think of dozens of parents that I know that love their kids but are dumb as posts and allowing them to be the primary educator when it's obvious they never took their own education serious really calls into question their qualifications. Some people shouldnt be teachers...even if they are the kids parents and love their kids.
not to derail this thread but we have a friend with a sever adhd kid who couldnt handle school. he’s doing exceptional on a home computer based program. there are several entire courses designed for homeschoolers. so it can be done. we’re fortunate enough to be able to afford private school but dang $1250/mo for two kids sucks.
Quote: @NorthwestNorseman said:
Interesting discussion on a Vikings site, lol. All I know now days is that I don't know. Big business is all about cutting costs at all costs. There are many types of vaccines. Anyone here saying vaccines are tried and true and it is idiotic not to vaccine know if any of the vaccines have changed ingredients/make-up over the years? I sure don't.
It's pretty rare for me to "know" 100%... Hey, this asbestos stuff is great for buildings, yeah, let's put it everywhere. Hey, this fake sugar replacement stuff we can put in soda and everything else is so healthy for us! Hey, let's put ground up rubber on this soccer field in place of dirt and let kids roll around in it, no one has proven it isn't bad for anyone...
I don't know that vaccines are bad for people, but I also know to not trust blindly. Ive vaccinated my kids because I think the pros outweigh any odds of something bad happening, but no way I'm going to preach that it's 100% safe, idiotic if you don't and that science has proven it.
But that's not the relevant question. The relevant question is whether getting vaccinations are safer then not getting them and that is 100% settled.
Quote: @Bullazin said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ medaille said:
@ StickyBun said:
We aren't talking about allergies....or the ethics of Pharma....we're talking about freaking vaccines. A tried and true method of basically saving humanity from pandemic diseases and ensuring future generations of such. But now we have the internet so some parents 'know better'. Give me a break. Its a rabbit hole of idiocy to try and debate vaccines online. Its not a debate, its a proven and highly effective medicinal methodology.
Its so ridiculous.
Every single post you've made in this thread is declaring how stupid people are if they don't agree with you. Do you think that telling people how stupid they are has any value to society?
When it comes to vaccines, of course. Are you kidding?? We aren't talking the preference of chocolate ice cream to vanilla here. Every single post there is that discusses not vaccinating your kids is idiotic. You can paint with a brush that wide on this topic. As I said, there is no 'other' side to this. There is zero value being polite on this subject.
All hail! The King Sticky has spoken.
Zero value in arguing with an idiotic stance such as this arrogance.
What i dont understand is why people who have vaccinated their children are scared of an unvaccinated child? This internet community thing is so confusing. We get to rip each other apart with no real consequence
For any given individual, there is a small chance of the vaccine not working. Those people's risk of contracting the disease is lessened by herd immunity - a situation where so many are immune to the disease those who are not are unlikely to ever encounter the virus.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
antivaxers need to be casterated or have their tubes tied so they dont pass on their genetic deficientcies.
I have no time for people who are so blatantly ignorant.
just curious, how do you feel about all the illegals and refugees coming here? I doubt any of them are vaccinated
Quote: @Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ AGRforever said:
antivaxers need to be casterated or have their tubes tied so they dont pass on their genetic deficientcies.
I have no time for people who are so blatantly ignorant.
just curious, how do you feel about all the illegals and refugees coming here? I doubt any of them are vaccinated
that they should vaccinate?? i brought them up further into the thread ad being a major contributing factor along with antivaxers.
past that illegals are illegal and should be treated as criminals just as they would in every other developed country in the world. refugees assuming their legal refugees should be treated as a refugee until citizenship is granted.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ AGRforever said:
antivaxers need to be casterated or have their tubes tied so they dont pass on their genetic deficientcies.
I have no time for people who are so blatantly ignorant.
just curious, how do you feel about all the illegals and refugees coming here? I doubt any of them are vaccinated
that they should vaccinate?? i brought them up further into the thread ad being a major contributing factor along with antivaxers.
past that illegals are illegal and should be treated as criminals just as they would in every other developed country in the world. refugees assuming their legal refugees should be treated as a refugee until citizenship is granted.
A) I didnt want this to sound political, sorry if it sounded even a little like that.
B) if they are illegal, they are most likely very hard to find, and yet their children are in the school system not vaccinated.
C) I am not going to even comment on refugees...
Quote: @Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ AGRforever said:
antivaxers need to be casterated or have their tubes tied so they dont pass on their genetic deficientcies.
I have no time for people who are so blatantly ignorant.
just curious, how do you feel about all the illegals and refugees coming here? I doubt any of them are vaccinated
that they should vaccinate?? i brought them up further into the thread ad being a major contributing factor along with antivaxers.
past that illegals are illegal and should be treated as criminals just as they would in every other developed country in the world. refugees assuming their legal refugees should be treated as a refugee until citizenship is granted.
A) I didnt want this to sound political, sorry if it sounded even a little like that.
B) if they are illegal, they are most likely very hard to find, and yet their children are in the school system not vaccinated.
C) I am not going to even comment on refugees...
On B. If their children are in school they shouldn't be that darn hard to find. Just wait by the bus for the parents to come get them or follow them home. I personally have no problem with requiring vaccinations to attend public school unless there is a very very very valid reason to not vaccinate such as an allergy or similar and without an alternative.
This topic shouldn't be this hard.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ AGRforever said:
antivaxers need to be casterated or have their tubes tied so they dont pass on their genetic deficientcies.
I have no time for people who are so blatantly ignorant.
just curious, how do you feel about all the illegals and refugees coming here? I doubt any of them are vaccinated
that they should vaccinate?? i brought them up further into the thread ad being a major contributing factor along with antivaxers.
past that illegals are illegal and should be treated as criminals just as they would in every other developed country in the world. refugees assuming their legal refugees should be treated as a refugee until citizenship is granted.
A) I didnt want this to sound political, sorry if it sounded even a little like that.
B) if they are illegal, they are most likely very hard to find, and yet their children are in the school system not vaccinated.
C) I am not going to even comment on refugees...
On B. If their children are in school they shouldn't be that darn hard to find. Just wait by the bus for the parents to come get them or follow them home. I personally have no problem with requiring vaccinations to attend public school unless there is a very very very valid reason to not vaccinate such as an allergy or similar and without an alternative.
This topic shouldn't be this hard.
nothing is ever as hard as the govt tries to make it.... thats just how they justify their place as the largest civilian employer in the country.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ AGRforever said:
antivaxers need to be casterated or have their tubes tied so they dont pass on their genetic deficientcies.
I have no time for people who are so blatantly ignorant.
just curious, how do you feel about all the illegals and refugees coming here? I doubt any of them are vaccinated
that they should vaccinate?? i brought them up further into the thread ad being a major contributing factor along with antivaxers.
past that illegals are illegal and should be treated as criminals just as they would in every other developed country in the world. refugees assuming their legal refugees should be treated as a refugee until citizenship is granted.
A) I didnt want this to sound political, sorry if it sounded even a little like that.
B) if they are illegal, they are most likely very hard to find, and yet their children are in the school system not vaccinated.
C) I am not going to even comment on refugees...
On B. If their children are in school they shouldn't be that darn hard to find. Just wait by the bus for the parents to come get them or follow them home. I personally have no problem with requiring vaccinations to attend public school unless there is a very very very valid reason to not vaccinate such as an allergy or similar and without an alternative.
This topic shouldn't be this hard.
Many many cities have become sanctuary cities or safe havens for them and dont care if they are illegal, especially the liberal run school systems
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