Quote: @mblack said:
@ ThunderGod said:
I am not a crook.
We did not, I repeat, did not trade weapons or anything else [to Iran] for hostages, nor will we.
Read my lips, no new taxes.
I did not have sex with that woman.
I never received nor sent any material that was marked classified.
If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.
and you wonder why people don't trust the government. Only problem is that is always the other side that lies (supposedly).
Every administration is going to tell lies at some point. What is alarming here is the quantity and propensity to lie about any and everything from this administration and Trump in particular
I dont think its something he even thinks about, he just does it.
He should just said yeah I fucred a pornew star big deAL she was hot I had fun
Quote: @Viking1987 said:
He should just said yeah I fucred a pornew star big deAL she was hot I had fun
As funny as this sounds, this is what he should have done from the get go. Accept and apologize (well, he kind of apologized, then later retracted his apology). It's been lie after lie and now the lies are just getting ridiculous. He and his crew are the one's keeping this in the news
Quote: @mblack said:
@ ThunderGod said:
I am not a crook.
We did not, I repeat, did not trade weapons or anything else [to Iran] for hostages, nor will we.
Read my lips, no new taxes.
I did not have sex with that woman.
I never received nor sent any material that was marked classified.
If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.
and you wonder why people don't trust the government. Only problem is that is always the other side that lies (supposedly).
Every administration is going to tell lies at some point. What is alarming here is the quantity and propensity to lie about any and everything from this administration and Trump in particular
how do you know that theyre telling them at a higher rate then any previous administration? because the “news” says so?
i dont care for the umpa loompa in chief but its dishonest to think hes being treated fairly in the media.
Trump is lying, babbling, thin-skinned filth...this has been known for decades. Nothing turns his orange hue red like being reminded of his own BS, and that's been true since the first time I heard of the drooling egomaniac. Look over his past quotes, and in the middle of the double-speak, misogyny, and bankruptcies...a very clear pattern emerges.
He's junk, as is his main party. They're just slightly less nauseating than Hillary and the DNC. Reminder: Trumplestilskin was a campaign contributor to Billy and the Hildebeast, and they have plenty of pics together.
Simply put, they were two of the most hideous choices possible...and if this isn't the ultimate wake-up call to burn down the "main" parties, then we truly are living in "Idiocracy".
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ ThunderGod said:
I am not a crook.
We did not, I repeat, did not trade weapons or anything else [to Iran] for hostages, nor will we.
Read my lips, no new taxes.
I did not have sex with that woman.
I never received nor sent any material that was marked classified.
If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.
and you wonder why people don't trust the government. Only problem is that is always the other side that lies (supposedly).
Every administration is going to tell lies at some point. What is alarming here is the quantity and propensity to lie about any and everything from this administration and Trump in particular
how do you know that theyre telling them at a higher rate then any previous administration? because the “news” says so?
i dont care for the umpa loompa in chief but its dishonest to think hes being treated fairly in the media.
At the bold, I am assuming you are kidding right? Have you heard him talk? Remove the media (which was not my reference point). Read the list I posted above, this were accounts of things he or his cronies said (without the media 'analyzing' any). That is just on one inconsequential issue.
I have nothing to add to any of these discussions... Other than is Tcar a member here now?
Quote: @Mike Olson said:
I have nothing to add to any of these discussions... Other than is Tcar a member here now?
did i miss the topiaries?
Quote: @mblack said:
Well, @Viking1987 said:
Why is it news wear thy that trump had a sexual relationship with a portal ten years ago I just don't understand why this is a big deal
Moved to Sensitive Topics as I am sure it will become so quickly with Trump AND sex. ---Jim
Since you asked here is why it is news...
First off the fact that Trump had a sexual relationship with a porstar or anyone is not news in itself. It is news because...
A. He (his lawyer in particular with or without his knowledge) had the porn star sign a non disclosure with an LLC (that had been created by Cohen a few weeks before) in the days leading to the election and the porn star was paid 130K. Given this was so close to the election makes people wonder if this was done to
- Prevent it coming out before the election (thus influencing the election) and
- If 1 is correct then the payment of 130K would be qualified as either campaign contribution (if it was the layer's money) or undisclosed campaign funds (if Trump paid from his pocket). either of which technically is not a huge deal anyways from a legal standing as FEC campaign fines are not that steep
B. From a PR standpoint, Trump and his people have been allover the map with lies upon lies on what actually happened. A quick summary below
- Trump did not know the porn star
- Then when proof surfaced the narrative became ...the porn star lied. Nothing happened
- Then port star's lawyer said there was an NDA and the president did not sign so it was deemed invalid and they want out of the NDA. Two of the three people signed the NDA (Porn star and LLC)
- Sarah Sanders then said "case was already won in arbitration by President" and NDA is valid.
- NDA becomes public with Trump (Dennis Dennison) signature missing matching what layer said. News also broke that the LLC was created by Cohen to disguise the payment.
- Then Cohen some how brings back issue in the news that he paid the 130K from his pocket (taking out home equity loan on his house) without telling Trump and Trump had no idea about it (this disclosure in itself is a ethical violation for Cohen)
- Trump on airforce one says he did not know about agreement or payment (supporting point 6 above)
- Then Cohen's stuff gets confiscated by feds including stuff for porn star on a separate investigation.
- Cohen says he will plead the 5th for porn star case due to his involvement in another case.
- Guliani (newly hired Trump lawyer to replace Ty Cobb) says Trump was aware of payment and money was funneled through lawyer and the 130K Cohen paid was re-embursed through retainer of 35K installments. This new disclosure by Guliani was echoed on two Fox news appearances. Also said he discussed this with Trump.
- Trump supports Guliani's version (line 11) in a series of tweets (so he knew about the payments and also retainer)
- Trump backtracks from what Guliani said and what he tweeted and says Guliani does not know subject matter yet
- Trump tells reporters he did not say what he said on Airforce One (line 7) about not knowing about the agreement or payment. Says Guliani will issue statement shortly.
- Guliani issues statement that what he said (line 10) was not what Trump said but what he thinks happened (trying to walk back all he has said)
- So we are back to Trump did not know about the payment and the payment was not an attempt to influence the election even though Trumps lawyer (Guliani explicitly said it was a few days ago)
Again all this does not matter in the court of law. The lies and changing story just creates a PR disaster for Trump and why the media is trying to get to the bottom of it.
C. Russia investigation. The porn star case just provides more proof to the inconsistencies from the white house as they cant even keep the story straight. If this story keeps changing by the minute what else could they be hiding
Please post here more often. Cold, hard facts are too often missing from any sort of discussion regarding politics nowadays.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ ThunderGod said:
I am not a crook.
We did not, I repeat, did not trade weapons or anything else [to Iran] for hostages, nor will we.
Read my lips, no new taxes.
I did not have sex with that woman.
I never received nor sent any material that was marked classified.
If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.
and you wonder why people don't trust the government. Only problem is that is always the other side that lies (supposedly).
Every administration is going to tell lies at some point. What is alarming here is the quantity and propensity to lie about any and everything from this administration and Trump in particular
how do you know that theyre telling them at a higher rate then any previous administration? because the “news” says so?
i dont care for the umpa loompa in chief but its dishonest to think hes being treated fairly in the media.
Do you fallow his Twitter account?
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